New York AG Sues Trump Family for Financial Fraud

With some purely statutory claims, there’s no right to a jury trial. Haven’t looked at this issue yet.

 

The first partial judgment was a summary judgment. Which means there is no factual issue in dispute. All trump had to do was file an affidavit putting some of the facts in dispute. But he didn’t.

The bench trial starts Monday. Because trump didn’t request a jury trial.

 

Read the opinion.

 

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7 hours ago — The trial due to start Monday will deal with the remaining six claims of James' lawsuit. James in the case is seeking $250 million in damages ...

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'Donald Trump plans to attend his New York civil fraud trial next week, and on Friday blasted the case as he asked supporters to donate to his 2024 presidential campaign before a key deadline.

Two people briefed on Trump’s plans told NBC News that he will travel to New York on Sunday night, and that he intends to be in Manhattan Supreme Court on Monday and Tuesday for the first two days of the bench trial of a lawsuit by New York Attorney General Letitia James.


“After four sham arrests, indictments, and even a mugshot failed to break me, a Democrat judge is now trying to destroy my Family Business,” the former Republican president said in an email for his joint fundraising committee Friday.

“Democrats are seeking to bring down the world-famous ‘Trump Tower’ and impose what some are calling ‘the corporate death penalty’ upon me,” the email said.'

 

Why do you keep saying 18 when the judge said 18-27? How many properties in the area have to stay a private club and can’t be developed?

 

Popok does an excellent job of describing all the charges, witnesses.


'The Fraud Trial of the Century against Trump and all of his assets and executives starts Monday. Michael Popok of Legal AF explains the 34 witnesses the State will put on to support their 6 remaining Fraud claims and to win the case to ban Trump from buying property, taking out loans or running NY businesses ever again.

 

There can be. I posted a link describing the different types of valuations.

 

I have. Again, I think this particular area of it could be an issue.

 

And all trump had to do was produce an expert witness who would testify that trump’s valuations were within the realm of possibility. One witness.

 

I think the judges judgement on how much MAL is worth was poor. One can tell it is by just looking at what’s for sale nearby. 18-27 million is a joke. Again, it’s an appeal point that can call the judges judgement into question.

 

You do not understand the court system.
The judge can only consider evidence the is presented. Judges can’t go online and look at current listings and base their decisions on that.

Someone has identified a nearby property with a high asking price. So what? That has nothing at all to do with the market price 10 years ago.

 

How many times are you going to post this crap while ignoring that MAL cannot be used for residential use or be developed unlike the properties nearby? As a business, MAL gives a very poor return on even a valuation of $28M let alone anything near $200M. Trump accepted all the subsidies and tax reductions and now is crying that the property he bought has dropped in value significantly because of the deed he signed in 2002

 

Reportedly, there are 128 potential witnesses on the defense witness list.... We'll see who that brave soldier is (under oath), assuming the guilty side bothers with a defense to pad those lawyer bills...

 

Will he or won't he?


'Trump floats plan to attend New York trial on business fraud'

'The surprise move would bring Trump face-to-face with a Manhattan judge he has repeatedly derided.'

'Former President Donald Trump plans to show up in person for at least the first week of a civil trial set to open in New York on Monday in which he and his business empire are accused of persistent fraud, according to court filings.

Trump’s plan, disclosed by his lawyers in a separate case, sets up the potential of a tense showdown with Justice Arthur Engoron, the Manhattan judge who is overseeing New York Attorney General Letitia James’ lawsuit aimed at dismantling Trump’s businesses. Trump has repeatedly insulted Engoron on social media.'

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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/29/trump-attend-business-fraud-trial-00119198

 

Nothing posted on his account about leaving Iowa and flying in to NY.


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Ten years ago a much smaller property went for over a 100 million.

Regardless, this is an appeal point. The valuation the judge gave is off. By a lot.

 

It could only be an appeal point if trump presented evidence of actual value - for the years in question - to the court, and the court ignored that evidence.

 

Which commercial property was that?

 

How many times do I have to say it is an appeal point that can call into question the judges judgement? It’s simply an appeal point. And yeah. They can appeal and show everything I have, present the evidence of the Limbaugh estate going for over 100 million about 10 years ago(much much smaller property).

Even here, you have people that don’t understand the different values a property can have and they can wildly differ. I’ve posted a link to the 4 types valuations. I’m not sure the DA understands it either.

The good news: you realize the property valuation by the judge is way off.

 

Not a commercial property. Try again

 

No, they can’t introduce new evidence at an appeal.
If trump’s lawyers wanted the judge to consider properties like the one you have found, they NEEDED to present that to the trial judge.

An appeal court will only look at the record that was available to the trial judge.

 

And we're off and running (well, maybe limping) at the Civil Fraud trial:

Oct. 2, 2023, 11:25 a.m.
8 min ago , comment by Jonah Bromwich
The argument by Christopher M. Kise, Trump's lawyer, so far feels very close to a reprise of his statements last month, which Engoron treated harshly when he granted the attorney general summary judgment and found Trump liable. Maybe Kise thinks that these arguments will be more successful with the remaining causes of action — but just as likely, he’s already thinking about a future appeal while straining to please his most important client.


Oct. 2, 2023, 11:25 a.m.
3 minutes ago
Kate Christobek

Kise is arguing that the defendants did not mean to defraud anyone with disparate property valuations. He calls this the essence of the commercial real estate marketplace, saying “buyers have a view, sellers have a view, none of them are wrong.”

 

Lawyer Aaron Parnas is Lev Parna's son.


'Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case'

'Due to an oversight, Trump's attorneys failed to ask for a jury trial within the time allotted to them'

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Trump isn’t getting a jury trial in his $250m civil fraud suit brought against him by New York AG James because his legal team didn’t request one on the paperwork
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Key piece of context: Justice Engoron just noted in court that "nobody asked for" a jury trial, which is why he'll be presiding over Trump's $250M civil fraud case without one.

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https://www.meidastouch.com/news/donald-trump-will-not-get-a-jury-trial-in-new-york

 

Surely he's jesting.

lol

 

Now we have Habba's opening statement concluded:


Oct. 2, 2023, 12:19 p.m.
3 minutes ago
Jonah Bromwich

“There was no intent to defraud, period, the end,” Habba says. She says that the attorney general is setting a dangerous precedent for business owners in New York. She’s done.

But Engoron keeps her at the lectern, saying he wants to go over some of the things that she says. And he is now correcting her, saying that she referred to Wallace’s opening statement as “testimony,” which is incorrect. He then scolds her for bringing up James’s motivations, saying that the issue has been dealt with by an appeals court.