New York State University Professor Defends Pedophilia

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  1. dharbert

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    SUNY professor under review for 'reprehensible' video defending pedophilia | Fox News

    The professor says it's 'not obvious to me' that pedophilia is wrong

    A State University of New York at Fredonia professor is under review after video clips surfaced of him on social media defending pedophilia.

    "Imagine that an adult male wants to have sex with a 12-year-old girl. Imagine that she's a willing participant. A very standard, very widely held view is there's something deeply wrong about this. And it's wrong independent of it being criminalized," Fredonia philosophy professor Stephen Kershnar says in a clip posted to Twitter Tuesday.

    "It's not obvious to me that is in fact wrong. I think this is a mistake. And I think that exploring why it's a mistake will tell us not only things about adult-child sex and statutory rape, but also about fundamental principles of morality," he said.
     
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    And here is your daily dose of libs....
     
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    Additional clips of Kershnar show him saying "the notion that it's wrong [to have sexual relations] even with a one-year-old, it's not quite obvious to me." He pointed out that in "at least one culture," there are reports of grandmothers allegedly "fellating their baby boys to calm them down when they're colicky."

    And these are the people teaching your kids...
     
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    While biologically natural for men to want to breed with menstruating women, it’s has been morally, ethically, criminally and socially unacceptable for a long time. The only people I know who are into sex with 12 year olds are some folks south of our border, Filipinos, Muslims and quite a number of liberals.

    I’d like to see this professor knock on the door where a twelve year old lives and tell her father he wants to have sex with her.
     
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    It's Fox News. Get a better source.
     
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    To understand this professor's comments we have to look at it relative to how and why sex with minors was criminalized in the first place.

    Clearly the "balance of power" in a sexual relationship lies with the adult and the minor/mentally unstable/adults under guardianship is out of whack. It doesn't even matter if the non-adult seduced the adult. As far as modern society in almost every state in the country, is concerned, that's not okay.

    I hope he gets fired for being cool with exploiting children and stupid enough to say he is cool with children being exploited. Nobody needs an idiot as a "teacher".
     
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    Fox posted a video of the guy saying it.
     
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    Can't, Liberal news sources won't report of Liberals accused or associated with pedophilia.
    I guess it strikes too close to home for them.
     
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    Perhaps spending a few minutes with the father of a 12-year-old will help him understand.
     
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    Then how do you know the professor's words weren't taken out of context? Which if that 'be shown, then the OP was intentionally or not, could be slandering the name of the professor. Doing exactly what big bad MSM does.
     
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    I’ve had people make the same argument to me. I strongly disagree with them, but I know it won’t be long before our culture supports it.
     
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    Because he made it pretty clear in his own video.
    "Imagine that an adult male wants to have sex with a 12-year-old girl. Imagine that she's a willing participant. A very standard, very widely held view is there's something deeply wrong about this. And it's wrong independent of it being criminalized," Fredonia philosophy professor Stephen Kershnar says in a clip posted to Twitter Tuesday.
     
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    And is there any way we know the video properly represented the views of the professor?
     
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    We know the professor believes having sex with a willing 12 year old shouldn't be criminalized.
    Is there something you aren't grasping that seems pretty simple to understand?
     
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    That's not what the professor said. What the professor said was that there wasn't anything obviously wrong ie self-evidently wrong with pedophilia. He's not defending pedos. He's saying we need to look at why we think pedos are wrong by looking at our morality surrounding pedophilia. He's a philosophy professor and he has to explain the morality of pedophilia. Philosophers are almost never satisfied with self-evident answers.
     
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    Sexual deviancy must be rooted out. Such people are deranged.

    This deviant should have all credentials revoked and be shadowed by local, state, federal, and international law enforcement.

    He should not be allowed within 10 miles of a school and should have to inform everyone House to house within a 10 mile radius of his domicile that it's not obvious to him that pedophilia is wrong.
     
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    I don't care. What I want to know is did Fox News take the Professor's lecture out of context. Because I'm willing to bet from the 10 seconds of research I did, Fox did.
     
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    The president of the school condemned this professor. It’s all in the Fox link.
     
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    And how do we know Fox news didn't take this out of context either?
     
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    Professor Kershnar does not believe in morality at all. His view on pedophilia is a mere corollary of his nihilistic philosophy.

    Total Collapse: The Case Against Responsibility and Morality
    Book by Stephen Kershnar
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    This book argues that there is no morality and that people are not morally responsible for what they do. In particular, it argues that what people do is neither right nor wrong and that they are neither praiseworthy nor blameworthy for doing it. Morality and moral responsibility lie at the heart of how we view the world. In our daily life, we feel that people act rightly or wrongly, make the world better or worse, and are virtuous or vicious. These policies are central to our justifying how we see the world and treat others. In this book, the author argues that our views on these matters are false. He presents a series of arguments that threaten to undermine our theoretical and practical worldviews. The philosophical costs of denying moral responsibility and morality are enormous. It does violence to philosophical positions that many people took a lifetime to develop. Worse, it does violence to our everyday view of people. A host of concepts that we rely on daily fail to refer to any property in the world and are thus deeply mistaken. This book is of interest to philosophers, lawyers, and humanities professors as well as people interested in morality, law, religion, and public policy.
    amazon.com
    https://www.amazon.com/Total-Collapse-Against-Responsibility-Morality/dp/3319769499
     
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    Prove it, instead of asking others to prove a negative, in you defense of this person.
     
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    So he's a philosopher... who is doing philosophy. Seriously I **** talk philosophers all the time. They're way too full of themselves. And because you disagree with his views he shouldn't be allowed to speak?
     
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    Sounds like a post modernist freak.

    You know how they get.
     
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    Okay. I will prove why you shouldn't trust this source. Or rather, why you should address the OP's source with lots of scepticism.

    "We rate Fox News strongly Right-Biased due to editorial positions and story selection that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed factually and borderline Questionable based on poor sourcing and the spreading of conspiracy theories."
    https://adfontesmedia.com/fox-friends-bias-and-reliability/
     
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    What if he argued people aren’t morally responsible for racism and slavery, would you still defend him?
     
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