New York Town Clerk Refuses To Let Same-Sex Couple Get Married

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  1. texmaster

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    WASHINGTON -- A town clerk in Ledyard, N.Y., is standing in the way of letting a same-sex couple tie the knot, even though the state legalized marriage equality in June.

    Rose Marie Belforti, the town clerk for the small town of Ledyard, has publicly stated that she will not sign marriage licenses for same-sex couples and refused to do so for Katie Carmichael and Deirdre DiBiaggio on Aug. 30.

    But Belforti, the publicly elected official responsible for issuing marriage licenses, refused to issue one herself and told the couple to make an appointment with a deputy town clerk. There's just one problem: There is no deputy town clerk.

    Belforti has cited religious reasons that prevent her from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. She is now reportedly not offering marriage licenses to opposite-sex couples either, except by appointment.

    The town's government is behind Belforti, saying it cannot force her to issue licenses. Carmichael warned that support could potentially make the town complicit in breaking the law.



    Then it can fire her. I do not support gay marriage at all but it was passed in New York and she has no right to refuse to enforce the law when her position requires it.

    Citing religious grounds is ridiculous because it opens the door to everything in the Old Testament from slave treatment to animal sacrifices being scrutinized.

    If it were up to me I would fire her immediately if she refused again.



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    We agree on something. She refused to do her job. Fire her.
     
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    ^^^^^ what he said.
     
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    I bet liberals have made that impossible.....

    Fire a state worker??? as if that was possible...
     
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    If religious grounds get in the way of someone doing their job, then they need to be removed and replaced.

    I do not support Gay "Marriage" either, but it's irrelevant if it is the law, and it's your job to do so.
     
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    As Brown and De Governator failed to defend Prop 8, they should also have been impeached/fired.

    As Holder refuses to defend DOMA, so should he be impeached.
     
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    I'm torn between doing the right thing (upholding the law) and giving the libs a taste of their own medicine (ignoring the law when we don't agree with it just like Obama has done with immigration laws).
     
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    ^Two other great examples of what I was just talking about. We can't operate on a double standard here. If we're going to fire this lady for not upholding the law, then others doing the same thing MUST be held to the same standard.

    To demand that Belforti be fired and look the other way when people like Holder and Brown do the exact same thing shows no respect for the law. Indeed, it proves that those calling for her head are driven by agenda and not principle. Which means there is no reason to give them anything they are asking for. They are no more important than anyone else.
     
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    Exactly right
     
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    And the same thing for illegal immigration.

    Although I'm sure we have a ton of liberals here who support sanctuary cities.

    This is where the left and the right differ.
     
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    Fire her immediately.
     
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    Feel the same way about Army Chaplins who refuse to marry same sex couples? What about a Conscientious objector?
     
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    Should a Catholic doctor who works for a state hospital lose his job if he refuses to do an abortion?

    As our society becomes more hostile to God and his Commandments, these problems will become more common.
     
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    That's the problem, many people don't believe in God, and there is no proof to his/her existence, and it has no place pushed as fact in our country.
     
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    If he signs up for a job that he knows may entail an abortion, yes... he should be fired for refusing to do one on religious grounds.

    If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
     
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    She is not pushing it as fact. She is objecting to having to be a party to what she clearly believes is a sin.
     
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    Did you feel this way about the elected officials in Wisconsin who fled the State, refusing to do their job?
     
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    You cant fire a government worker, Leftys would be outraged...
     
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    Sure... I think fleeing your workplace to neglect your duties should entail some sort of penalty.
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*) the left and the right. We need a party for people with common sense.
     
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    Of course

    Do you support sanctuary cities?
     
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    If she's unwilling to perform her duties, she ought to be removed from office.

    That's not really fair comparison, though. When was the last time we had any president, right or left, who took illegal immigration seriously? Bush certainly didn't, and Reagan gave them amnesty for crying out loud.

    Anyway, I thought you hated people who made sweeping generalizations about an entire group of people based on the actions of just one or a few within said group.
     
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    WOW! What is this forum coming too....a post that actually makes sense!
     
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    They would make an exception in this case...she doesn't conform to their agenda.
     
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    Isn't it interesting how he ran from this question.
     

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