NICARAGUA TO CONSTRUCT RUSSIAN MISSILE BASES

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    You can't even afford bases in those countries. Your economy is circling the drain as it is. :)
     
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    The appropriate response is that the U.S. has more power than the Russian Federation. So we will simply prevent the installation of Russian missiles in Central America. NATO would not have expanded had Putin not decided to invade Ukraine. There are consequences. You can blame him for the expansion.
     
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  3. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    Ahaha... You don't even know what you're writing about. NATO began to expand before Putin came to power. Study the materials.

    But what's the problem? You just recently said that every country has the right to conclude a military alliance at its discretion. What happened now?:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Of course but I was referring to the expansion that occurred after the invasion of Ukraine. Sorry if I was not clear.
     
  5. yangforward

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    Russia and the US have approximate military parity. Even if we are more
    powerful that should not be sufficient reason to break our word that
    we would not expand NATO 'not one inch eastward'.

    (this was after negotiations in which the USSR withdrew 400,000 troops
    from East Germany, in exchange for a promise to move no further east
    after the withdrawal)
     
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    I don't think we are NATO. We are a member of NATO. The expansion since the invasion has been to the north, not the east. You think we should worry about "our word" when Russia invades another country? Who broke the peace? Certainly you are kidding.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Russia is not remotely on par with us militarily.

    We never agreed not to admit new members to NATO.
     
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    errmmmm....is your moon in aquarius...are your nuts falling from their bags.....has your brain taken a long holiday.....has your wife been berating you....has the still in the potting shed exploded.....???

    ....All are possible explanations for the laughable comment.....
     
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    I remember, that useful idiots and bots told here about "US missile bases in Ukraine"(what is fruit of their imagination), rocket flight times to Moscow and other bullshit, and claimed, that US also would act like Russia in Ukraine, if someone places rockets on their borders. So... I guess US invasion in Nicaragua with aim to destroy Nicaragua state and nation is already going?
     
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    Sort of like Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?
     
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    Pointless gesture, Russian subs can launch their missiles from far closer, this is just sabre rattling.
     
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    But it is making a point, allegedly the whole reason for the war in Ukraine,
    was to allow Ukraine to join NATO.

    I wonder if it was worth it?

    Ukraine being the closest to Russia would then host a strike force
    of missiles and F-16s. And almost no one knows when the missiles
    will be armed with nukes.

    Ukraine would then risk losing it's entire population.
    I don't think Ukraine would vote to station nuclear weapons.
    The nukes would then be closer than US submarines can
    safely bring them.
     
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    What "sort like"? US invited Iraq with sim to destroy Iraq state and nation, or Iraq chemical weapons never existed, just like US bases in Ukraine?
     
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    I wonder if You have at least some idea what are you talking about, because at the beginning of 2022. Ukraine was not even somewhere near to join NATO, and at the 2014., when war actually started, Ukraine was a neutral country by its constitution.
     
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    There were WMDs in Iraq, the US is helping preserve democracy in the Ukraine as it introduced it in Iraq.
     
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    Yes they were, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran and against Kurds. It's just a fact. And you should be in at least light inadequate state, to find similarities with any of US invasions in Iraq and US aid to Ukraine in war against Russian aggression.
     
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    Any sign of those missiles yet? Or the facilities required to base them?
     
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    CIA says no.
     
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    We were a victim of not understanding the Middle East mind. They bluff and bluster and brag about weapons and capability they do not have, and will create a shams presence of capability.
    Arab leaders think more like fictional super hero women.
    Our war was a case of believing what we could not verify.
    What is a leader supposed to do? Wait until launch?
     
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  20. Dayton3

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    Where did you get that idea?
     

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    NATO nations are all fully independent of the United States. NATO can only expand because nations WANT to join.

    There is no parallel to the Russians in any way.
     
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    You do know that Alaska is a U.S. state and has been one for more than half a century.
     
  23. yangforward

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    Half of the people on this forum are the same.
    They claim we have more and better nukes than Russia has.
    No, Russia is ahead, just do a bit of research.

    They claim we can beat both Russia and China in a
    conventional war both at once. No, we couldn't be
    sure of beating either one on it's own.

    They claim we would beat Russia and China in
    a trade and economic war. Again, no.

    The problem is rather than us all working and living
    together on planet Earth, Biden can only think
    of destroying other countries.

    I'd hoped we'd gotten beyond the crusades mentality.
     
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    Which countries Biden plans to destroy? Bring up the whole list.
     
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