Nigeria records chloroquine poisoning after Trump endorses it for coronavirus treatment

Health officials in Nigeria have issued a warning over chloroquine after they said three people in the country overdosed on the drug, in the wake of President Trump's comments about using it to treat coronavirus.
US President Donald Trump claimed at a White House briefing last week that the Food and Drug Administration had approved the "very powerful" drug chloroquine to treat coronavirus.
"It's shown very encouraging -- very, very encouraging early results. And we're going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately. And that's where the FDA has been so great. They -- they've gone through the approval process; it's been approved. And they did it -- they took it down from many, many months to immediate. So we're going to be able to make that drug available by prescription or states," Trump said.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html

So? 3 Dead in Nigeria (overdosing on Trump's "Wonder Drug"). Wow.

This goes to show what happens when you have someone (Trump) who lacks understanding disseminating disinformation.

In light of these deaths, is anybody still in favor of widespread use of this drug to combat the Virus?

Thoughts?

 

What size of dosage is actually necessary to result in a death from chloroquine? Even asprin is lethal is an individual exceeds the recommended dosage.

 

So three people overdosed? Should we withhold a drug that could save thousands of lives because three people overdosed? That would be like saying shut down all hospitals and withhold treatment from patients because there are medical mistakes made.

So yes....to answer OP's question....I am still in favor of using this drug. Let me ask you this: if your elderly mother got the virus, and she was lying there deathly ill, and you knew that thousands of people had been saved by the drug, would you say "no way.....three people died from it."?

 

I am 100% opposed to the criminal IMPOTUS giving out medical advice!

I came across an article that discussed in more depth how the Covid-19 virus functions. In simple terms it enters the lungs and them excretes an acid that dissolves the wall of the cell in the lung. This gives the virus access to inside of the cell so that it reproduce.

However the acid hole does not reseal and the liquid within the cell leaks out and accumulates in the lung. With enough of the viruses damaging cell walls the lungs fill with fluid and the result is similar to drowning.

The anti-Malaria drug has a property that neutralizes the acid that the virus excretes thereby preventing it from harming the cells in the lungs. This effect was identified by the French doctor in his trial. With functioning lungs it is possible for the patient to eventually recover assuming no other conditions apply.

Like all drugs the anti-Malaria drug does have side effects and in large doses it is toxic enough to kill.

Given the above the drug should only be prescribed by a doctor and the patient should adhere strictly to the recommended dosage.

 

True.

I guess the best route would be to give every American an unlimited supply, and then if they O.D. they can look at it like it they took a bottle of aspirin?

Got it.

 

Pray tell, why is it so difficult to provide a simple answer to a simple question?

 

In Africa we often self medicate. Chloroquine is readily available because it has regained it's position as a viable malaria treatment after a couple of decades of non-use because a resistant strain formed but that has now become rare.
The problem in this case is that people have no clue as to the treatment regime and these three either OD'd or got their hands on counterfeit drugs which ironically come mostly from China.

By all means test it. I took chloroquine weekly for three years when I was in the Peace Corps with the only side effect being vivid dreams. 10s of thousands of Peace Corps volunteers took it globally back then and I never heard of any adverse side effects. Had there been they would have warned us to be on the lookout for signs.
Had a doctor made this announcement he/she would have explained what they were trying. Derideo_te is absolutely right that Trump is not the one to make such announcements because as we can see here three are dead and others are afraid of a potentially life saving medication because of it.
We all want good news about the virus but every time an announcement is premature it has a far greater discouraging effect. For example, how many people searched the Google Covid-19 app when Trump announced it and how many have now visited it's site now that there is one? We should all try and nip in the bud these false happy news.

 

What medical advice did Trump give out. In an question and answer with the press talking about Coronavirus he mentioned chloroquine. Go ahead and hate the man, but come on not every thing bad that happens is his fault.

 

If he'd quit lying or giving incomplete information he wouldn't get dumped on so much. He heard that auto makers on their own started talking to ventilator manufacturers about how they could help ramp up production. He then announces that three of them are making ventilators which is not true. Now they are going to look bad because they can't make these highly sensitive and complex machines any time soon.
He seems to have a chronic need to say what he thinks will make people happy with him and the truth and consequences be damned. He needs to stop that because every time he does it it creates more distrust and more panic. Maybe if his base started calling him out for it instead of defending him every turn he'd stop doing it.

 

How much did they take? You can overdose on any drug.

 

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/22/f...e-go-ahead-to-produce-ventilators-trump-says/

Eh?

 

Yes, they announced talks. They were neither authorized by Trump nor ordered by him to do so. They are far from actually producing any. Had he waited until they were able to produce then we'd all be going HURRAH!!! But when a month from now hospitals are crying for ventilators it will be a double whammy to the American public who thought that problem was solved.
Stick to reality and stop embellishing because in the long run he is just hurting the American psyche more and more. I've said it before, Obama didn't have panic like we do now because there was never anything to contradict him on. He told people the unvarnished truth and they respected that. Trump can't seem to get past a tweet without trying to make himself look on top of something without actually having a clue as to what he's talking about. Get a script and stick to it.

 

They dont need to be "authorized" nor "Told" to yet..

They are doing so on their own.

 

Ban aspirin now!

 

Are you in favor of using the drug based on what medical experts say, or only based on the uninformed ramblings of a narcissistic man-child named Trump?

 

Exactly.

From Trump's tweet. He had nothing to do with it and now they will be vilified when they fail to produce these highly complicated machines neither soon enough nor fast enough. Not their fault, they are independently making an effort and will be punished for it.
Not unlike Trump telling people to re-sanitize their face masks and leaving it to others to have to explain why that can't be done. Have you been to the Google portal?

 

Once again what medical advice did Trump give? Since you are willfully side stepping my question, I can only assume none. I get it you don't like Trump. But come on Trump mentions that some researchers have had good results with Chloroquine and so idiots in Nigeria OD on it and this is Trump giving medical advice. Start living in the real world man. I would bet you act like Jenny's goofball boyfriend friend when he thinks about Johnson in Forest Gump, I would really love to see your theatrics in person. Take a breath.

 

So the people that have to this point been treated in part with this drug have been prescribed it by..... go ahead fill in the blank...

 

Do Democrats need a doctors prescription for a gin and tonic?

 

When did Trump prescribe anything to anyone. He made a comment.

 

So lemee see if I understand the "logic":

Given: Trump says Chloroquine was approved by the FDA.

Given: Chloroquine is said to work wonders on COVID-19.

Given: Trump says Chloroquine will be made available "by prescription" or states.

Given: Prescriptions are given out by doctors.

Given: Three Nigerian idiots OD on Chloroquine.

AJ's conclusion: Trump is giving out disinformation on Chloroquine.

Yeah, I think you're missing a few steps there, AJ.

Overall LW logic fail.

I think you need to self-isolate your posts.

 

Chloroquine should have been deregulated and stocked next to the aspirin weeks ago.

 

It's his MO.

 

Orange man's killing the whole world! Democrats should impeach him!

Or maybe we should continue testing drugs that show promise and not fall victim to more fearmongering and figure out what went wrong in the third world country so as not to repeat it...

 

I was responding to someone who said he was in favor of using it for Covid-19, and who suggested that thousands of people have been saved by the drug.

There is no scientific evidence / study that even slightly suggests that it is useful against Covid-19. There is an anecdotal report of its use on about 20 mild cases in France. Mild cases, so they almost certainly would have recovered anyway.

Do any of you believe it’s useful and if so, why?