No charges to be filed in charlotte police shooting

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    There is an abundance of evidence and video is not the ONLY evidence nor is it normally the convincing evidence as normally there is not a professional camera man setting up the shot.

    So ONLY if there is video that shows everything in detail in every such shooting you will be convinced the officers are guilty?

    What about the officers over ten times yelling at him to drop the weapon and how did the officers plan to counter any clear videos showing him without a gun in his hand? How did they know that no such videos would exist will they were falsely yelling for him to drop the non-existent? How did they know there would be no video evidence to prove them to be giving false statements to the investigators as you are claiming they all did? Especially the ones who did not fire their weapons? Why would they risk going to jail?
     
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    No I am being accurate you are all over the place and the evidence is defeating you
     
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    You don't even know what the hell "a lack of" means.
    I had to drag your nose in a dictionary ffs.

    You were ignorant about the fact unarmed people are being killed a dime a dozen.
    And than no cop got convicted for murder last year.
    You're worse than Jon freakin Snow.

    And you claim to be accurate?
    lol
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    I'm not asking for every detail. The cops can not even produce 1 image that he was holding on to a gun. Not even 1!
     
  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What constitutes "pointing the weapon" in a self defense case and from the reasonable obsecatoon of the officers? Not your 20-20 hindsite?
     
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    Asking is one thung. Claiming the man shouldn't have been shot because the camera doesn't show the gun is another. The shooting was easily justified

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    Does not mean the evidence doesn't support thier claims

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    They don't have to. There is plenty other evidence.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    From your post #138 and I quote:

    " Wrong there was and is physical evidence."

    Having short term memory problems?
     
  9. Soupnazi

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    Wrong because none of them are proven to be murder. Killing someone is sometimes justified murder never is.

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    You have presented no evidence that unarmed people are being killed dime a dozen.

    Claiming a certain number of police shootings with no convictions does not support your position
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yet again we see that the so-called racism that has been attributed to the police is indeed non-existent. How many cities have to burn before people finally understand that racist organizations like BLM are the problem and not the police?
     
  11. notme

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    What wrong? They got away with it. Plenty of examples on my last source. Like 3 cops beating a mentally ill guy for 20 minutes straight till he died. It's all perfectly "normal" how the police can get away with murder.

    I have.
     
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    You need to prove your stuff, man.

    Hence I've been saying that there is a lack of evidence.

    What plenty of other evidence? The crap what the police claims? Last month a cop got caught saying on the dispatch that he is being attacked, while he was the only one who was violent. It took a civilian camera to prove it. An other cop claimed she was shot at. She lied as well. What the police claims is freaking useless. Hence they are wearing camera's.
     
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    From the article " They said Scott refused to follow the officers' commands." If Scott followed orders he would be alive today. As is the case with many of the police shootings. We need to reign in people that think they can disobey police orders. There are remedies for that called the COURTS, let them settle it. Summary executions, talk about extreme.
     
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    I have prooven my "stuff". THe evidence supports the officers claim, and there is none to the contrary. Your refusal to accept the evidences does not equal the evidence not being there. There is no lack of evidence, there is a plethora of evidence, you just wont accept it without a video or picture. There is far more evidence to consider than simply a video or picture, and it is there and it corresponds with the multiple officer and eye witnesses stories, and the physical evidence at the scene.

    The officers, the witnesses, the gun found at his feet, he is a felon, the finger prints, him clearly being ordered to put it down and NOT putting it down, and not a shred of evidence to say the officers are lying. About the most justified shooting there is lol.

    Just because one officer has lied does not mean a predisposition of them all lying is reasonable. Which is exactly what you are doing. The shooting is justified but im curious, if all the current evidence we have remains the same, and there is no chance of having any further evidence given, meaning that it doesn't exist, what would you do if you were in the position to send the officer to prison, or side with him in this situation? Would you send the officer to prison when all the evidence shows him to be in the right and not a shred against him, just because his body cam didnt capture the exact image of the man with a gun in his hands, and no picture from the witnesses did? Would you assume the officer is lying and send him to prison without a shred of evidence that suggests he is lying? I mean...im genuinely curious as to why you are still arguing. Is it to simply be argumentative? Do you hate authority that much? Are you just so angry at right extremists that defend even clearly unjustified shootings that you feel compelled to attacked a clearly justified one?
     
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    Where was the gun then? In the body cam video clearly his holster was empty when he went down. Prior to the shooting, Scott was seen in the video standing with the leg holster exposed.

    After he was shot, the cop in the red shirt ran over, grabbed something from Scott in the vicinity of his upper body, while Scott was laying face down, then backed off while yelling for handcuffs. The cop in the red shirt was later photographed standing over a semi-automatic pistol.

    The cops were extemporaneously shouting to drop the gun.

    There's no video or photo of Scott holding the gun, but it seems pretty clear where it was. If it wasn't in his hands, where was it?
     
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    No you have not and your link offers no evidence of murders.
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    You said
    I'm missing the part where I said "pointing a weapon" try again without being snarky it makes you look foolish.
     
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    I am missing your posting of the physical evidence that he was pointing or even holding a gun. Sorry but I can't keep going back to your posts to refresh your memory. You asked me to prove where you said there was physical evidence and I did. Now you want to change the question since your last denial has been proven incorrect.

    And my exposing your lies is not being snarky. You denied you said there was physical evidence and I proved that statement false so now you are changing to pretending you never said there was evidence of pointing a weapon.
     
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    LOL, what a joke. You and your ilk only love the police when they are murdered by someone black.
     
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    No doubt in my mind that the guy in N Carolina basically committed suicide by cop. The N Charleston shooting on the other hand has me baffled by how anyone can doubt the guilt of the cop, and yet it is looking like a hung jury.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    Sorry I have no obligation to post evidence of something I have never claimed nor do you have any position to demand it so clam it up.

    The DA did a far better job of that than I go educate yourself on the evidence don't take my word for it.

    Well if your memory ain't fresh I suggest you not makes statements of fact which you ain't fresh about since it can make one look foolish.

    So you admit you made it up when you claimed I said he was point a weapon and therefore obliged to prove it to you.

    Your confusions are not my problem.

    You said I claimed he was pointing a weapon, I have made no such claim. If you continue to make such a claim you will be asked to prove it.

    Yes there is physical evidence in this case which supports to officers and in fact convinced 16 career DA's, unanimously it was a lawful shooting. You should do yourself a favor and go listen to the DA's press conference where he went into detail about it. You have presented no evidence which shows otherwise.

    So if you just want to get snarky and demanding I prove things I do not claim you will be asked to prove your claims and when you refuse that will show you were making it up.

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    Well he knew he was about to go to prison, that's for sure.
     
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    I have demonstrated you claimed there was physical evidence that he was holding a gun and pointing it at the police. Not my problem that there wasn't the evidence you claimed there was.
     
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    Lack of evidence. Get's rather dull to repeat this.
    And it's not up to me to prove what went on.
     
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    well over a 100 black unarmed black people were murdered in the streets by police officers. Even when 3 cops beat one up, locked up in a jail for 20 minutes until he died,... it still remains perfectly "normal" and done in a "legal" way. That is plenty of evidence. The US justice system functions like a kangaroo court in the best of banana republics.
     
  25. Bluesguy

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    No you haven't as I never made a claim about physical evidence of where the weapon was pointed and you cannot show where I did. It's your problem you can't now deal with it and if you continue to put such claims in my mouth without substantiating it you will be reported to the mods under rule #4.

    And you do realize the law does not even require the weapon be pointed at someone before deadly force can be used so why are you even harping in it.
     

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