'No differences' between children of same-sex and opposite-sex parents

Your question

My answer

Your question

My answer

Which words in my answer do you not understand?

 

So your testimony here and now is that you never took the position that same sex, unrelated couples need not marry because they cannot " accidently " procreate ( at least not until your "mother and grandmother" can also marry, even though their ability or inability to procreate by your standard is identical?

 

You are demonstrating once again that your 'points' are detached from reality.


Dixon claim: It was the potential of procreation that motivates the ban on closely related couples.

And as I pointed out that is clearly false.

Couple #1- Bob and Shirley- brother and sister- banned from marriage in Wisconsin regardless of whether they have any potential for procreation or not.

Couple #2 Bob and Joan- first cousins- allowed to marry in Wisconsin only after they demonstrate that they have no potential for procreation.

Two couples- one can marry- one cannot- the couple that cannot marry cannot marry regardless of any potential for procreation.

Wisconsin laws don't forbid siblings from marrying because they have the potential for procreation- IF that was the case they would just treat siblings exactly the same way as they treat first cousins.

Hence the potential for procreation is not the motivation.

 

You seem to be at a loss for words tied so I will repeat the question:

Is your testimony here and now that you never took the position that same sex, unrelated couples need not marry because they cannot " accidently " procreate , even though the ability or inability of that mother and grand mother ( who you think should be able to marry for reasons that you can't explain) to procreate by your standard is identical to the unrelated same sex couple?

I will add this. Are you testifying that you have, ever, expressed any level of concern or compassion for the children of unrelated same sex partners- children who, as I have documented- were SUFFERING from the discrimination leveled at their parents? Have you EVER addressed that issue in any way?

And, have you EVER addressed the issue that I raised concerning the absurdity of expecting those children of unrelated same sex couples to wait until society and the legal system accepts the concept of parent-child marriage, which likely will be never.?

You never have and never will be able to honestly address those issue and that is why you are so pathetic. It is why you can't win here .

 

Nope. Im sure you will accuse me of not answering this question as well.

 

Nope. It speaks for itself.

 

That's it, after insisting I answer the question. After insisting that I hadn't answered the question. Now that you have your answer, you have nothing to respond with. Typical

 

Dixon;

"What will this vain and foolish babbler say next ?"

 

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You do get easily frustrated when I wont adopt your strawman arguments as my own.

 

And easily baffled when I point this out.

 

And then your meaningless hysterics follow.

 

And then you have nothing but emoticons left.

 

Versus your idiotic word games. Glad gay marriage is legal, glad gay people can adopt, and glad idiotic homophobes have to deal with that. Have fun with THOSE facts.

 

Riiiight. Answering "Nope" to both of his questions he claims I haven't answered is word games. Only in yours and his mind.

 

go texassssss!

 

Aaaand then his typical duck and jibe to another topic to run from the previous topic he cant even begin to engage in with relevant comments.

 

OK wise guy. Since you'er so intent on being a persistent pain. Let’s start over. Here are just some of the issues and questions that you have avoided with your doublespeak, twisted logic and lies. Please note, they are NOT yes or “NOPE” questions. They actually require and EXPLAINATION

1. How do you reconcile the FACT that you have taken the position at various times that same sex couples should not be able to marry, or need not marry, because they cannot procreate ( by your standards ) WHEN SIMULTAINIOUSLY, insisting that your famous “grandmother and daughter down the street” who are caring for a child together-as are many gay couples- SHOULD be allowed to marry when their ability to “procreate “ is no different from those gay couples? Please do not lie and claim that you never took one or both of those positions. You won’t fool anyone but the fools here.

2. When and how have you ever expressed concern or compassion for the children who are in the care of same sex couples who were placed at a disadvantage at a time when the couple could not marry, or where the non-biological parent figure could not adopt as a second parent? Hell, when have you ever even acknowledged their existence?


3. You have taken the position that giving rights including the right to marriage to gay people is creating inequality because it does not include everybody else such as your grandmother and daughter down the street” and christ only knows who else. It has been pointed out to you that marriage between a parent and offspring has extremely rare in human societies, does not exist at all in modern times, and the chances of it coming about here and now is virtually impossible. YOU WERE ASKED: How do you justify the continued discrimination against gay people AND THE CHILDREN -in effect holding them hostage - for something that no one wants or is advocating, and that will never come about?

A word of caution: DO NOT DARE to edit this post like you have a bad habit of doing. When you reply, I expect to see the whole question right there with it.

 

Well Dixon? Where the hell are you. YOU accused me of ducking YOU??!! Yet it has been well over 24 hours since I challenged YOU to answer these questions that YOU have been ducking, and not a word from you. Why is that? I know why it is. It's because I called you on your practice of editing my posts and questions, ignoring the parts that you can't deal with, and giving the impression that you actually addressed the issue and provided an answer. NOW you don't know what to do with this....do you? Here it is again. Deal with it, dude! (Post 473)

 

Does the gender of parents really matter?

New study: gender of parents doesn't matter. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo.../201002/does-the-gender-parents-really-matter

In their analysis, the researchers found no evidence of gender-based parenting abilities, with the "exception of lactation," noting that very little about the gender of the parent has significance for children's psychological adjustment and social success. They found there are far more similarities than differences among children of lesbian and heterosexual parents. On average, two mothers tended to play with their children more, were less likely to use physical discipline, and were less likely to raise children with chauvinistic attitudes. Studies of gay male families are still limited.

As the researchers write: "The social science research that is routinely cited does not actually speak to the questions of whether or not children need both a mother and a father at home. Instead proponents generally cite research that compares [heterosexual two-parent] families with single parents, thus conflating the number with the gender of parents." So the Court of Appeals was right in saying that children benefit in some ways from the resources that come from having two parents, but their intuition was wrong in believing that those parents had to be of different sexes. Hopefully the California court that is currently considering Prop 8 will follow in the footsteps of the Iowa Supreme Court in relying on scientific reason over intuition.