No more high confidence it was russia who hacked DNC

And the claim of Russian hacking is falling apart. The computer experts hired by the DNC have ended up with egg on their faces, due to new revelations, which of course MSM will black out. For obvious reasons. So the charade should be in trouble, and yet, MSM will not allow it. Since you will never hear of this in the "news" here is a link so you can read about it yourself. Unless you want to protect your charade, and live in denial.

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/03/30/a-cyber-gulf-of-tonkin/

Thoughts?

 

To give this important OP, more views, before the libs bury it, I humbly bump...

This is rather important, I think, and I doubt anyone else knows about it. But if it gets ignored, I shall just use it on another existent thread.

 

zero doubt obama admin spied and its pretty much coming to fact the Russia/trump collusion story is fake

 

A source named "antiwar" would naturally read into the Democrat Russophobic fever gripping Washington some effort to promote superpower military conflict, likely they anticipate Armageddon with a nuclear "exchange" even.

My evolving thesis is that the more innocent Democrats are unable to accept the electorate's rejection of their 'vision' and have latched on to this Russian meddling as their hopeful explanation for why Hillary was trounced. I think some not-so-innocent Democrats realize fully the depth of popular rejection of their policies, they know their constituency was sheltered in a cosmopolitan coastal bubble, but they don't want to jeopardize this support diluting extreme policies to attract people outside the big liberal cities. Instead they've taken Hillary's failed campaign-generated narrative of Russian pro-Trump meddling to promote a perpetual investigation that will forever hold a dark cloud over Trump and in this way stymie his efforts to deliver what all those voters outside the liberal bubble demand.

I expect the continuous investigation will gradually accumulate evidence that calls into question the Democrat narrative. The current Wikileaks dump ("Vault 7") suggests the NSA and CIA acquired and applied Russian cyberwarfare code to disguise their hacks, the investigation could reveal Hillary's server was hacked domestically using code stolen from the Russians!

 

Can't wait for the chants at the trump rallies "KGB! KGB! Make America Great Again!"

the tolls and their distribution networks did not just disappear, they continue to troll. and attempting to downplay the Russian interference is EXACTLY what their job is.

But don't look behind the curtains.

 

A blog.

Here are some more for you at
Illbelieveanything.com

 

And the ''lock him up'' chants of the demonstrators at those rallies.

 

We got to look behind the curtains when the hacker pulled them back on the DNC.

 

Yes, and now we are going to get a look at who's behind trump's curtains. I'll bet the farm this one is going one helluva juicier scandal. there is afterall a question of treason should any of the so far unsubstantiated accusations against members of the trump campaign colluding with russian actions in the both the primaries and the election.
Trying to create false equivalency of that with something that in the end amounted to an embarassing distraction, is pretty damn simple minded.

Manafort is guilty as sin and has been under an alphabet soup of agency investigations for a number of YEARS. T

rump? If he didn't know then he is was duped by those he hired around him. Hmm, seems he has quite the problem hiring, let alone finding (how many appointees remain outstanding?)

I think he's starting to melt down, given his running away from questions. I guess he forgot scurrying away from the OVAL OFFICE in front of cameras!

the hits just keep on comin'.

 

You are living in an alternate reality of willful ignorance. There is *NO* evidence of any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign - only accusations that it *could* have happened! Well, it *could* have been little green men from Mars just as well!
What you are trying to convince us of is that we, the public, would be better off not knowing about Killary's total disregard for national security secrets and her collusion with the DNC to cheat during the primary campaign!
Only a full-fledged partisan dependent on willful ignorance for their world view would believe that!

 

Do you know what cognitive dissonance is? On one hand you state the allegations of treason are unsubstantiated. And they you claim they aren't unsubstantiated and that is why so many alphabet agencies are doing investigations.

The investigations have been going on for a YEAR! And there still is not one iota of evidence of collusion. None. How much longer are these allegations going to be a narrative of the MSM?

 

No, I think you have a reading comprehension problem.

Oh, no, I merely claim that the accusation of collusion with trump is wholly unsubstantiated. The accusation of collusion between the Russian
"active measures" in the US election and certain members of the trump campaign has considerably more than merely a ton of circumstantial evidence.

Until all the questions are answered, or perhaps you can tell us all how you know what the evidence is? Obama had the "evidence" documented and its existence communicated to the both intel committees, for a reason.

But go ahead with these lame attempts at dismissing the fact that America has been the victim in the largest intel attack in American history, which may include TREASON on the part of some key members of Trump's campaign. gotta hand it to trump - if is every proven, it will be the greatest scandal in us history. He'll be remember as Trump the Greatest for something alright.


did you notice that the network of trolls and bots and sympathizers is still in place. It took a few years to build, it doesn't just stop functioning.

 

A bit of the report. I recall Raimondo from the Clinton years and I believe at the time the Clinton crowd loved his reports. But he collects data globally.

 

I think to sum it up, you allege Trump got one over on Hillary.

Well she is not bright. If it is that easy for Trump, think who else pulled the wool over her eyes.

 

Yes of course. No evidence, except what we already know.

First, members of the trump campaign have serially lied about their contacts with russian operatives.
Second, Manafort is a crook that has been taking russian money for a long time.
Third, the republican chair of the senate intell committee in a unanimous statement has stated that there is substantively more than circumstantial evidence.
Fourth, the FBI, NSA, CIA, Treasury, investigations continue apace.
Fifth, we know that Trumps National security advisor lied to congress, lied to everyone, and was a FRIGGIN FOREIGN AGENT (extreeeeeeeeeeeeem vetting, eh?)

When did partisanship trump patriotism amongst trumpettes? I why its important to the trolls, but what about those simple americans who actually think trumps just the cat's pajamas?

 

I'm sorry but if you think for a moment that the NSA, CIA, the FBI, and the military cyberwarefare experts are relying on a an outside firm to determine who did what to who, you really are an entrenched partisan.

 

John Podesta as it turns out took some of that money as well.

And he got hacked.

 

No, Putin got one over on Hilary. Trump was along for the ride.

 

Look facts

The name Crowdstrike shows up as supposedly proof the Russians did it. Now Crowdstrike recants.

Explain how the RNC managed to not get hacked but the DNC did? Why don't you guys call for the head of John Podesta who did deals with the Ukrainians and has reasons to hate Trump

Had we got hacked, we would have called for the head of the RNC.

When the FBI warned both, only one took excellent action. So we did not call for the head of the RNC.

Your side looks like intellectual runts allowing your servers to suffer hacking.

I personally believe an insider very unhappy that Sanders got the shaft took it out on Hillary by releasing tons of documents. Hackers might be good but tons and tons of documents??

 

Wow, your point being? Oh yes the ol' FUD principle. Your false equivalencies are sophomoric.

Fact is the US military and security apparatus are now on the case and you can deflect and regurgitate false equivalencies.

Funny how a number of prominent russians that could very well have been within the active measures network appear to be dying of blunt force natural causes and stuff. Maybe its a very quiet screaming message from the US to vladdy. Or it just may be Vladdy cleaning up his own mess.

 

Maybe Trump could hire the brilliant Putin. But Hillary is one dumb woman.

 

There is a forum protocol. Did you agree to abide the protocol?

I will wait for you to start to follow it.

 

Your belief is based on your feelings because you are certainly ignoring the facts.

BTW, it was revealed yesterday in the senate hearing that counter-espionage units had been tracking russian bots and information distribution points since 2014!
If you think that the US is way behind Russia in cyberwarfare to the degree that they can hide their tracks completely, I'm sorry you don't know much about both the technology. Or do you think those tens of billions of dollars the military has spent on cyberwarfare over the decades was a boondoggle.

 

Huh?

what the hell are you talking about?

 

I am talking about your smears and insults for one thing