No-planers: I challenge you to explain how all the videos and photos....

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  1. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I believe there were actual planes.
     
  2. Private Citizen

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    I believe that there were planes in New York, but not the Pentagon or the field in Pennsylvania. There is no way a plane crashed at either of those locations. One only has to view the wreckage of the most recent plane that was blown up. Just look at the engines and how massive they are, then review the video from the 2 planes they said went down at the Pentagon and the field. You will notice some thing very different. There is hardly any wreckage at all, certainly no engines. The official explanation.... they completely disintegrated. Huh! But yet they were able to identify all the bodies...
     
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    Apples and oranges
     
  4. Private Citizen

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    No! Apple's and Apple's.
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Personal incredulity is not relevant to fact. I have seen a light plane half buried that buried the pilot in a small crash. If you understand the physics and the construction of aircraft you might be able to understand the forces involved that can do what you claim to be unbelievable. You realize there is such a thing as DNA testing don't you? Of course they can identify the bodies but if you have been to a crash site, those bodies are not recognizable anymore than hamburger is recognizable as a cow.
     
  6. Soupnazi

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    These were not planes they were hugs jet airliners


    Massive amounts of debris were found at all four crash sites which has been shown demonstrated and proven on these threads many times.

    There was never a claim of disintegration. Your claim is false and both the Pentagon and shanksville were crash sites for airliners and nothing else hit there.

    The proof in that fact is overwhelming it has been shown to you and you are merely ignoring willfully.
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ??? Not sure if you are addressing me since I never claimed any of the conspiracy.
     
  8. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Airplanes are meant to fly through the air. They are not designed to burrow through the ground or buildings. Not counting swamps and other soft ground, they will NOT burrow. They are delicate structures, and some compare the fuselage to an egg shell--strong in certain ways, but most fragile in others.

    Those are facts, demonstrated thousands of times over the years.

    The official explanations for what happened at the pentagon and in Pennsylvania are not credible or consistent. That you might be sufficiently credulous to believe those fairy tales suggests some sort of cognitive dissonance.
     
  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense. Try jumping from a high bridge onto 'soft' water and tell us what happens.
     
  10. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    your logic is flawed,the plane did not 'burrow',it was driven ino loose soil,with incredible force,just as the jet in the everglades
     
  11. Private Citizen

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    I'd be foolish to believe any of the ridiculous notions you spew out in any thread. To defend those two "plane crashes" like you do tells me all I need to know about you.
     
  12. Hoosier8

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    No need to understand physics as long as you have belief.
     
  13. Private Citizen

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    Explain how physics melts two planes on the same day. Where is the slaag that would have been left from the big melt down? Why wasn't all the grass near the crashes completely gone? If it was hot enough to melt steel and titanium the grass certainly would have been burned to ash. Your physics claim doesn't stand up to common sense. In fact it's just a feeble attempt to complicate the situation so that those that don't understand won't understand. I know this because the lack of proof in your comments. Simply saying someone doesn't understand physics doesn't make your point...unless your name is blue63 then apparently that is all that is required.
     
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    There was plenty of burned grass in shanksville had you bothered to look the other 3 did not hitr grass.

    Nor did anyone claim they were melted.
     
  15. Private Citizen

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    Yes I do. So they just happened to have everyone's DNA on file so they could identify 300 people in 24 hrs. In order to match DNA you have to have two samples of the DNA to compare. Where did the other sample's come from. Let me guess now with the new physics that melts planes to ash or gas we don't need two samples of DNA to compare them too. :roflol:
     
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    Show me pictures of the engine's in that field or a cockpit or just one wing.
    metal doesn't disintegrate it melts.
     
  17. Soupnazi

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    Wrong it can disintegrate as well.

    A great deal of debris was recovered photos of which have been available for years. You are demanding specifics which did not survive intact. Of course there is no reason to think such pieces would survive intact.
     
  18. Private Citizen

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    So no proof just your word. Okay! Nice talking to you.
     
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    Metal disintegration is used to remove tool steel,like broken taps,and broken bolts from bolt threads

    It's also what happened to the planes on 9/11,so to speak.
     
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    As opposed to your ignorant assertions
     
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    First of all, they had a pretty good idea who were on the planes so that is a no brainer. Also, your 24 hour claim has no basis in fact.

    Forensic pathologist details grim work helping identify bodies after 9/11 in new book
     
  23. Private Citizen

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    Oh so now the process they use to remove broken bolts happened in both plane crashes.... So the moment the plane hit the ground a massive electrical charge was shot into the plane and the great heat mixed with water that came from the toilets caused the plane to disintegrate?
     
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    That would be about as viable as your opinion.
     
  25. Private Citizen

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    A new book is going to have all the original reporting of course and because someone published it, it is obviously true. I will give you credit for posting a link for once though. Links are helpful even if they are full of (*)(*)(*)(*). It gives me a glimpse of who I am dealing with.
     

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