No-planers: I challenge you to explain how all the videos and photos....

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  1. Private Citizen

    Private Citizen Well-Known Member

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    If you keep hitting your head against your desktop it will cause brain damage. In the fragile state your brain is already in I strongly suggest using a helmet if you wish to continue hitting it against a solid object. Although new studies have shown that football players are suffering from brain damage even though they wear helmets. They have detected it as early as high school in some players.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    The planes did NOT disintegrate 'into dust..And no one claimed they did.

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    Whoosh!
     
  3. Private Citizen

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    :wall::wall::wall::headbang: whoosh whoosh! Bah bah black sheep.:deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:
     
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    Then produce pictures of both titanium engines for each plane in Shanksville , and the Pentagon. Because the official explanation is they disintegrated or incinerated on contact. This is really not new information. You probably haven't heard it because you were 12 in 2001. This is not my 1st message board I have been discussing 9/11 since it happened. It is established that the engines are missing. Funny thing is they were able to recover a passport from one of the "terrorist" even though the heat was so great it melted objects like steel.

    Funny how a few pages back you were trying to explain the process it took to make the engines disintegrate, now since that failed you're are now trying to convince me that no one said that the planes disintegrated. That is a clear sign that you really don't have a clue about 9/11. You have given little effort to look at both sides of the spectrum. You are putting all your faith in the government's side and sadly you are clueless to what their side even is. People like Hoosier pretend to know some mystical information about the process it took for three buildings to fall at nearly free fall speed and people much like yourself would not understand any of it. That is NOTHING MORE THAN A COP OUT. This is where I give you credit at least you tried to come up with something. Agents like Hoosier won't dare explain the exact process because if they do it will be crushed by the weight of the truth. Stop letting them control you with peer pressure if you are interested in 9/11 listen to both sides before picking one.
     
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    The master of propaganda had this to say.

     
  6. Hoosier8

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    Disintegrate? You obviously will not accept the photos of the engine parts and landing gear parts taken at the Pentagon then will you?

    You cannot explain any process to someone that cannot comprehend the physics. That would be like explaining how a TV works to an infant. So far you reject any physics associated with any explanation you have gotten so it is pretty useless to try again since you would need to have some basic understanding of physics and aircraft.
     
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    That is your opinion, nothing more, until you prove it.
     
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    911_90_20.jpg you mean this stuff???
     
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    There are hundreds of questions like the one I ask. Such as the angle of the plane that hit the Pentagon would have caused much more external damage to the ground. Not to mention nearly impossible for a large jet liner to come in at the angle the video footage shows an object traveling. The initial damage to the Pentagon (before the collapse) was a hole large enough for the nose of flight 77 to fit in. So the whole plane including the engine's disintegrated and were sucked into that small hole. It is unbelievable not to mention IMPOSSIBLE I don't care what "physics" you think you know it is impossible in this atmospheric condition. Now if it was a black hole you might be able to convince me that flight 77 disappeared into that small hole. This is why Hoosier will continue to assert his opinion that if you don't know the three sacred things about physics (mumbo jumbo) air craft construction (top secret information) and the facts (published lies) then you will never understand. Convenient for him they have mystical information common folks would not understand. I say bull (*)(*)(*)(*)!!! Prove it!!!
     
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    You first.
     
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    I'm not providing you with jack....you're apparently too lazy to look at the pictures anyway,besides,you've already been shown the engine parts
     
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    Your claim, your burden of proof.
     
  13. Private Citizen

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    Because you can't, not because you don't want to. It has been established already. That tiny little engine that they brought out as proof is barely big enough to be on a Lear jet. The engines that were on flight 77 were twice the size of the one engine they supposedly found. I have seen the pictures they don't stand up too scrutiny. That would be the reason agent Hoosier would not post them. You are too ignorant to know better. FYI jet liners have two engines.
     
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    The engine part is correct. That is an old P4T meme that has long been debunked. If you still wish to push this canard, please provide evidence for the renewed claim.
     
  15. Private Citizen

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    Says you! It's actually Hoosiers claim. He claims they disintegrated. The 9/11 commission report claims they disintegrated. So no it's their burden to prove it. I love it when ignorance chooses to speak.:roll:
     
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    Show me the debunked link then! I'd love to see that. And where is the other engine? The one they claim disintegrated? And explain the process it took for titanium to be pulverized to non existence.
     
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    It's not Hoosier's claim. It is that of the 9/11 commission.

    They have. Now you say, 'Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)', therefore you have the burden.

    So do I.
     
  18. Hoosier8

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    Actually, disintegrate is a good descriptions but I bet Private thinks disintegration as in something from Star Trek.

    Disintegrate - break up into small parts, typically as the result of impact or decay.
     
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    I will look for it. It is rather old.

    You're the one arguing from incredulity, not me. You find out. I don't do rabbit holes that ignore the empirical evidence.
     
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    I was going to post the definition earlier but decided it was not my duty. So again Hoosier you were wrong. So the engine broke up on impact and went where? Not on the outside of the Pentagon. How did the intact engine wind up inside the building when the original hole was barely big enough for the nose of the plane?
    It should be noted that the first pictures of the Pentagon and the small hole have been mostly removed from the internet or they are buried because I can't find any of them in the first 20 pages of my search result's. I have found them in video's but no pictures. Are you denying the size of the hole before the collapse as well? If so we can end this conversation now my daughter is begging for my attention and don't have time for flat out denial of clear facts.
     
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    Yet that is all you do.
     
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    FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"
     
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    Come on now, to be honest with you the author is using selective video and pictures. There other pictures showing the wall with a hole about 9' tall and 6' wide. The pictures your "debunker" is using are about 10 minutes after something hit the Pentagon. I watched the second plane hit the towers and didn't stop until 1 o'clock in the afternoon. I seen the original reporting as I assume you did as well. The "New and improved video" lol they even had to put a real picture in there as to help you visualize it. Magically a blue line now shows up. New and improved means even less than the original video. If anything it proves they (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up with the first one. In court if you brought the second video in it wouldn't be admissible. It is the same as the first but with a new blue line. Sorry but that doesn't debunk any thing IMO.
     
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    and he works for who????
     

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