Non-Jews should not be allowed to live in Israel - Israel's Chief Rabbi

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  1. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    2 Million in a country of hundreds of millions? You are very funny guy.
     
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    So that would be 2 million that Japan hasn't allowed in, correct? You're too easy mate.
     
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    LOL what ever you say buddy, a less then 1% population to you is allowing immigration? Ok you win, Israel should also follow this policy, I am ok with that. This would be roughly 70000 None Jews in Israel, works for me.
     
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    Japan has allowed in exactly zero refugees in 2015
     
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  5. Pisa

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    Can you pretty please post some maps that show how exactly are the Palestinians surrounded by walls and watch towers?

    The sex wasn't consensual, the woman was taken straight to the hospital, badly bruised. I remember the case very well, I went "oh, she's racist" at first, but when more details emerged it turned out that not only had the man lied about being a Jewish bachelor (married plus two), but the sex, far from being consensual, has been brutal rape. He has been accused of sex by deception (which is a crime, and it's not an Israeli gimmick), not rape, due to a plea bargain. An innocent man doesn't need plea bargains.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-28198622

    Oh, yes.

    [video=youtube;kLnrG2Xqyfk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLnrG2Xqyfk[/video]
     
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    We give Israel $4 billion a year....so how do they have $3 million to waste on their Gay Pride next month???????
     
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    Theocracy is never good, oppose it in all its forms.
     
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    I agree: Israel should only be for Ashkenazi: non-Ashkenazi deported.
     
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    Ashkenazi are the pinnacle of human evolution: they are to goyim as Homo Sapiens were to Neanderthals. To disagree is to just be jealous of the evolutionary superior Ashkenazi.

    The Caucasians could have had their own ethnic nations too, but they were not smart enough to do it: always fighting and killing each other, such as in WWI and WWII and Civil War and American Revolution and etc. Don't blame Israel if they are smart enough to ethnically unite to survive.
     
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  10. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ha ha ha, haven't seen this one, thank you for posting. Hey snake, have you seen it? :roflol:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How much of these 4bln were in cash, and how much in credits to buy American made armaments, eh? :wall:
     
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    I agree. If one wishes to live in America and become a citizen he should renounce his citizenship to the country he came from. Speak our language. Pledge allegience to the American flag and when they fly the American flag it shall be over any flag of the countries they came from. Obey the rules and laws of OUR constitution and not try to implement their own type of laws and justice.
    Not much different than what Israel wants. You may be an American but when you are overseas you are expected to obey the laws of the country you are in.
     
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    There was no mention of this in the articles that I read. In any case, my purpose was to show how jews hate non-jews. Here's what the judge said about the "rape":
    Could you imagine what would happen if a judge in a Western country were to say the same thing about a native woman and her foreign sex partner? "Yup, you're guilty of rape, buddy, because this German woman would never have had sex with you if she had known that you're a Turk". There would be an outcry in the media, and jewish organizations would start kvetching about "ze Nazis". You know exactly what I'm talking about, Pisa.

    Here's Gideon Levy's comment about this case:

    But are America's religious leaders saying that the children of immigrants should be killed? (That's what the chief rabbis are saying about Palestinian children.)

    Do America's pastors/priests spit on immigrants on the street? (That's what orthodox jews do to Christians in Israel.)

    Are immigrants prohibited from converting to the Americans' religion? (Palestinians are prohibited from converting to Judaism.)

    Is the American government banning books about romantic relationships between Americans and immigrants? (Israel's government has banned (or "disqualified") a book about Arab-jewish romance.)

    Are Americans brutally assaulting pro-immigration activists while the police and media cover for them? (This happens to Western humanitarian workers who try to help Palestinian children in Israel.)

    I could go on and on.
     
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    Nazism is evil
     
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    If there is a law against gaining a sexual consent of the victim by deception or fraudulent statements then there is no need to shout "ze Nazis" if the case was as you presented it in this part of your comment.

    If a Jew was pretended to be a Muslim and would had sex with a Muslim woman, then it would be considered, according to the Arab countries, as rape and the man would've been killed. And in Israel he would've been jailed after been convicted of rape by deception.

    You analogy is lacking. In Israel immigrants are from Jews to Christians. Can you find me the palce where a chief rabbi said that the children of immigrants should be killed? After all, it is what you asked the man about America's religious leaders and immigrants.

    I live in Israel, and I never sew people in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Rishon Le Zion, Ramla, Lod, Hod hasaron, Haifa, Eilat, Be'er Sheva, Arad, Kfar Saba, Ra'anana and the rest of the cities in Israel spit solely on Christians.

    Really? Cause reality shows different:
    [video=youtube;bo2CQ7v7uFs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo2CQ7v7uFs[/video]
    [video=youtube;ySLMbBy8_YI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySLMbBy8_YI[/video]

    The book you are talking about was not banned nor disqualified for the Israeli readers. Israelies can buy it in every book store in Israel and read it in their homes. The book only didnt include in the curriculum in schools because verious of reasons of the organizaion that didnt include it.

    There is alot of riots/protests in the US that the Police is using their means to disperse to riots/protests.
     
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    And I'm sure you imagine God is on your side.
     
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  17. Pisa

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    I assure you the money's well spent.
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    Aren't they cute?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-11329429

    You might have noticed that I live in Israel. The story has been all over the news. That's how I know. I'd expect the major news outlets to publish updates on a story with such emotional impact, to inform their readers that the first impression is not always accurate. Sadly, many journalists choose the splashy over the truth.

    Hiding a part of the truth is still a lie. Here's what the judge said:

    The "serious romantic relationship" is the crux of the matter, this is why the woman trusted Kashur, this is what got her raped. Now tell me again how a rapist is the victim, and a raped woman the aggressor.

    Are you so lost in your purpose that you'd defend a rapist just because he's Arab?

    That was rape, so your point is moot.

    Reminder: the "sex by deception" case was the result of a plea bargain.

    If I tell you what I think about Gideon Levy, I'll get banned from all the forums on the internet for the next 10 lives.

    1. Quotes and sources, please.

    2. There's one (1) Greek orthodox priest who complained about such a behavior. It's not a Jewish habit, must be something personal. Jerusalem is full of Christians, so are Jaffa, Haifa, Nazareth, the Carmel (the Mukhraka - I've been there recently, plenty of Christian tourists, nobody spat on them, sorry).

    If you ever come to Jerusalem, you'll understand immediately that it would be quite impossible for the Jews to spit on the Christians there. Too many Christians. Spitting on them all would be a full time job. Besides, the monks are not the kind of people who would turn the other cheek...

    3. Judaism is not missionary. It's a personal religion, not a universal one. Becoming a member of the Jewish nation is not a trivial matter. Everyone who can't prove he/she's serious about becoming a Jew is prohibited from converting to Judaism. I think Reform Judaism is less strict, but I don't believe they would accept everyone.

    Nobody can prohibit anyone from believing in whatever, but making it official is an entirely different matter.

    4. Err...

    What books have been banned by the Israeli government?

    5. Names of Western humanitarian workers, dates, assault type, names of Palestinian children helped.
     
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    I'm not really sure what to make of this bizarre case. In the BBC article that you linked to we learn that the alleged victim is – and I quote – "an emotionally disturbed woman who had been sexually abused by her father from the age of six, forced into prostitution, and lived in a women's shelter at the time of the encounter with Kashur", and the prosecution, i.e. the people that were on her side, thought that she was an unreliable witness.

    If the Palestinian man really raped this jewess, then he should go to jail, but I haven't seen any evidence of that. Does this make me an evil, hate-filled antisemite? If so, then I'll tell you the same thing I told some other jewish poster a while ago: call Abe Foxman and make a complaint. Although if you live in Israel, I should probably say: call Efraim Zuroff.
    No. Unlike jewish supremacists I condemn all crimes, regardless of the race or ethnicity of the perpetrator. I already explained why I brought up that case, but you keep ignoring it.
    Yeah, that's what I thought.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmuel_Eliyahu

    Safed Chief Rabbi Calls on State to Exact 'Revenge' Against Arabs

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/safed-chief-rabbi-calls-on-state-to-exact-revenge-against-arabs-1.242746

    And there are more examples.
    http://www.haaretz.com/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/orthodox-jewish-youths-burn-new-testaments-in-or-yehuda-1.246153
    http://www.jta.org/2012/07/18/news-...hael-ben-ari-rips-up-throws-out-new-testament
    http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...vert-to-Judaism-rejected-automatically-449987

    http://www.jewishjournal.com/israel...s_rejected_automatically_israeli_official_say
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.694620

    Of course, pro-jewish sophists would say that the book wasn't really banned but simply removed from the curriculum or something like that. Yeah, whatever.
    http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/349614.shtml
    http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/349579.shtml
     
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    Israel was NEVER CREATED!!!!!!! It was reconstituted!!!!
    Read the preamble of the 'Mandate Articles!!!!!
     
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    Please clarify.

    Was it "reconstituted" as a Jewish Nation/State

    Or some Liberal, democratic place anyone can chose to reside,
    become a citizen, etc.


    Gracias
     
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    May I remind you your words?
    That's one chief rabbi. Where are the others?

    Wanna talk about the Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan?

    The Ha'aretz article lacks credibility. For instance, the mention of "many clergy" is too vague. There are no opinions and no testimony of religious Jews from Jerusalem, as should have been in an objective news article.

    I don't deny there might be tensions and even brawls between ultra-orthodox Jews and Christians in Jerusalem, but presenting it as a mass phenomenon of Jewish hatred against Christians is too much. The growing numbers of Christian volunteers in the IDF, as their religious leaders are calling for all Israeli Christians to serve in the army, contradicts the "Jews persecute Christians in Israel" thesis.

    Some Christians - the so-called Messianic Jews - are aggressively proselytizing. They even handed out comics about Jesus to Jewish school children. There are always tensions between those Messianic Jews and real, orthodox Jews.

    As for destroying Bibles...well, it's not something I agree with. Those who do are clearly extremists. I'm curious though - what makes you think that all Jews would automatically rally behind someone like Ben Ari?
     
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    Yes you are right... but because the majority of Arabs do not write English their interpretation would be the word LEAVE for LIVE.

    They would come back and say the Rabbi said we should not LEAVE.
     
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    read. I am sure this will be an eye opener for some, and to all those who still believe that the State of Israel was <created> when in reality it was RECONSTITUTED.

    MANDATE FOR PALESTINE
    Preamble

    The Council of the League of Nations:
    Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provision of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them ; and
    Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country ; and
    Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the ground for reconstituting their national home in that country ; and
     
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    As for the American press instead of military deciding what is reported, we have editor's and a press Secretary controlling what is reported. Instead of investigative journalism, they just show up to a press conference and are told what the news. Not that much difference between the two systems of media.
     
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    If I read it correctly
    and admittedly I am a bit dyslexic
    lucky I went to the Medical School that invented synopsis textbooks
    Israel is a Jewish State.
    Not an open to all gentiles, democratic nation.
    Israel is a Jewish nation / state.

    What part don't I have correct?


    Moi :oldman: born the same year as Israel

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