Nordstream 2 pipeline construction continues - Germany denies Trumps demands

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.
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    lol, so am I :clapping::clapping::clapping: but not for long :(
     
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    Okay that's interesting, what is the solution that you would like to see?
     
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    The only solution would be that Germany leaves the €. Something that wont happe any time soon.

    Its the old german question in Europe. Germany is too powerful. For the others the € at least works like a tool to have some limit control.

    They suffer from the high bill for the electric fence...but they are afraid to shut it off.
     
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    Britain is leaving the EU. What do you think of that?
     
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    Britain is breaking apart over it.

    Northern Ireland remains EU

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43219559

    There is complete chaos in the UK and their economy currently starts to shrink. Its doubtful that BREXIT will happen at all.

    They will do as always. Vote as long until the result is what they want.
     
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    That's an exaggeration. Britain is not breaking apart they are simply leaving the EU which they were slow to join anyway. Northern Ireland isn't leaving the UK, they are simply going to continue EU customs procedures with regards to trade with Eire. Britain cannot be controlled another European power. They are intelligent, rich, powerful and don't care about Europe. They have always held themselves apart. They will leave. I think you are upset that they were wise enough not to join the Eurobloc unlike the rest of the fools because it prevented Germany, which you seem to consider an expansionist power, from gaining any monetary advantage over the UK.
     
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    The UK is pretty poor and has gargantuan structural problems. The UK produces almost nothing. The UK also is a pretty small and weak country and gets bullied around alot recently.

    You totally misunderstand me. You somehow believe i want my country to rule over them?

    I feel disgusted by them. All of them are so far below us and i actually feel belitteled to have to care about them.

    My dream would be an isolationist Germany that simply does what is best for it, without being burndend with shitholes like italy, uk or poland.
     
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    God what nonsense, Sobo, Germany couldn't rule over the UK if it wanted to. They are much too smart and powerful for that. The Brexit and euro thing prove it.
    I give you a chance to show you're not some knuckle-dragging Italian farm boy and you screw it up.
     
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    Our economy is almost twice as big as theirs and they have no manucafturing base left.

    Also why would we want to rule over a shithole?

    You make a big mistake again. You somehow have the ****ed up idea that i want rule over those shitholes. I was in London in April and it was disgusting there.

    Im member of the AfD party. We want a Germany outside of the EU. I dont want those shitstains like UK, Italy or France at our boots. Understand now?
     
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    So, you enjoyed your trip to Belarus? Have you visited Belovezhskaya puscha? Did you like Brest?
     
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    Rösti is a Swiss thing, and Kartoffelpuffer is a German thing :)
     
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    You mean in poverty like this?

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    No, in your messages you favor Germany becoming a Russian state.
     
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    Soul-touching photo.
     
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    I don't know about that, but the pictures he posts claiming its him certainly look Italian.
     
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    What a nonsense! In his messages Sobo favors Germany being independent from anyone and stronger than anyone.
     
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    I have family in Oldenburg, Germany. I've been to Germany four times starting in 1978 and most recently in 2010. I can't say Germany made a favorable impression on me. One thing I noticed on all my trips to Germany in every part of the country were the homeless people often in the subway or rail stations. Read this article from a German news site:

    http://www.dw.com/en/german-poverty-rising-despite-economic-growth/a-37787327

    Germany
    German poverty rising - despite economic growth
    A new report has shown the poverty rate breaking new records in Germany, even as GDP continues to grow. While charities call for better redistribution, some economists say factors like immigration also play a role.
    DW recommends


    Latest figures show poverty increase in Germany

    Numbers from a forthcoming government study indicate that more and more Germans are either very rich or very poor. Are the state's income equity programs failing its citizens, or are new solutions needed? (14.12.2016)


    Germany's food pantries struggle to meet rising demand


    German government deleted passages from poverty report


    Report: City dwellers in Germany poorer than rural neighbors

    A host of major German charities have called for a "rigorous change of course" in the government's tax and finance policies to fight growing poverty, in a major new report released Thursday.

    The poverty rate in Germany reached the new record level of 15.7 percent in 2015, according to the report, entitled "Human dignity is a human right," by an alliance of organizations called the Paritätische Gesamtverband.

    German Gross Domestic Product had also risen at the same time, by 1.7 percent on the previous year, which prompted the organization to demand the government pursue "determined action" in labor market policy, social housing, education, and the extension of social services.

    "Growth is what the economy produces, but for years now that hasn't reached the poor population," said Erika Biehn, deputy chairwoman of one of the charities that presented the report in Berlin. "Because they don't have the right education - I had the same experience myself. I was poor, my mother was poor, so I had it harder in school. It's been the same problem for the past 50 years."

    The solution to the problem, according to Biehn, has also not changed over the decades: "Smaller school classes, employing more teachers, and making sure that children from poorer social groups are really supported," she told DW.

    She said that while growing GDP might help to create new jobs, many of those jobs are so poorly paid that they merely cause further erosion of middle class living standards. "It's also that many jobs are being digitalized, so that people aren't needed anymore," Biehn said.
    Defining poverty

    But some economists don't agree with this, and don't believe that poverty is growing. Christoph Schröder, senior researcher at the Cologne Institute for Economic Research (IW), didn't agree with the report's appraisal, not least because the recent rise in poverty was "mainly down to immigration."

    "Since 2005, the high point in recent unemployment, we've seen a practical stability in the poverty rate," Schröder told DW. "But if you take out the immigration factor, we hardly have any rise in the income poverty rate at all."

    Much depends on how poverty is defined. The Paritätische Gesamtverband,along with Germany's official statistics office, says a poor person is someone who earns 60 percent or less of the country's median income. The IW, however, describes this as too narrow a definition, and argues that people's actual living circumstances need to be taken into account. The median calculation is, according to Schröder, "a purely relative term - simply a convention. If everyone earned twice as much, then the poverty rate would be equally high."

    "Of course, if there's a high rate of people with a relatively low income, then there is a social problem that should be taken seriously," he added. "But I wouldn't put that in the same category as poverty. There is always the question: what defines a minimum living standard - is it really only proportional to income?"

    Relative poverty or absolute poverty

    But the Paritätische Gesamtverband takes issue with what its head Ulrich Schneider calls an attempt to "reduce poverty to misery," by focusing only on the lack of basic needs such as food, clothing and an assortment of consumer items that define living standards, such as a TV.

    This, according to Schneider, amounts to "an attack on an inclusive society" and Germany's constitutionally guaranteed respect for human dignity - which means participation in society.

    "Poverty is when people, because of an insufficient income, can simply no longer take part in society ... and are forced to withdraw, and are de facto marginalized ... into sub- or parallel societies," Schneider wrote in his statement introducing Thursday's report.

    Economic institutes like IW also criticize the fact that certain social groups, such as students, are often included in the standard definition of poverty even though their living standards are relatively high. In other words, the poverty rate is artificially inflated.

    Schneider's response to that is that "hundreds of thousands of homeless people, and hundreds of thousands of care patients and disabled people" are not included in the statistics at all, which means that there is really an "under-estimate of the real dimension of poverty in Germany."
     
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    I do not know which railway stations have you visited in Germany, but compared to the streets of San Francisco full of homeless people and beggars, railway stations in Germany have virtually 0 homeless people or beggars.
     
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    San Francisco is a shithole, socialists made it that way. It used to be a nice place but visit Bonn, Dresden or Dusseldorf sometime. Homeless people in plain sight. They are easy to pick out of the crowd, like this guy:
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    Yes, we dont have something like this.

    You do realize im German, right? Your picture is from Russia.
     
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    They are poor and homeless by their own choice. All they have to do is to walk into a Sozialamt. Thy get a home there + monthly income.

    So what you try to show? That we have scum here? Evry nation has.
     
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    Yep and you are no different, just like Poland or Portugal, no different at all...only in minds of fascists is there a difference
     

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