Not Good: Obama First US President To Chair U.N. Security Council

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  1. Retired War Veteran

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    After seeing the sheer numbers of pissed of Americans waving 'don't tread on me' flags, he may have decided he'll need a huge foriegn army to suppress the American people. The Usurper is a Pure Globalist, and elitist. Apparently, he's got time to take off from the duties as Usurper of the united states to seat the Chair of the Un security Council.
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7d0c7a3a-9ca4-11de-ab58-00144feabdc0.html
    http://www.rense.com/general87/ob1.htm


    Some unprecedented news, folks. Never in the history of the United Nations has a U.S. President taken the chairmanship of the powerful UN Security Council. Perhaps it is because of what could arguably be a Constitutional prohibition against doing so. To wit: Section 9 of the Constitution says:

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

    Nonetheless, the rotating chairmanship of the council goes to the U.S. this month. The normal course of business would have U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice take the gavel. However, this time will be different. Constitution be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed, Barack Hussein Obama has decided to put HIMSELF in the drivers seat, and will preside over global nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament talks slated to begin September 24th. The Financial Times says:

    Barack Obama will cement the new co-operative relationship between the US and the United Nations this month when he becomes the first American president to chair its 15-member Security Council.

    The topic for the summit-level session of the council on September 24 is nuclear non-proliferation and nuclear disarmament - one of several global challenges that the US now wants to see addressed at a multinational level.

    UN officials also hope a climate change debate on September 22 will give fresh impetus to the search for a global climate deal at Copenhagen in December. There are also hopes a possible meeting between Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli prime minister, and Mahmoud Abbas, Palestinian Authority president, that Mr. Obama would host, could lead to a breakthrough about a timetable for Middle East peace.

    Here is what the UN Security Council does. Picture Obama as the Chair of this committee with this power.

    Under the UN Charter, the functions and powers of the Security Council are:

    * to maintain international peace and security in accordance with the principles and purposes of the United Nations

    * to investigate any dispute or situation which might lead to international friction

    * to recommend methods of adjusting such disputes or the terms of settlement

    * to formulate plans for the establishment of a system to regulate armaments

    * to determine the existence of a threat to the peace or act of aggression and to recommend what action should be taken

    * to call on Members to apply economic sanctions and other measures not involving the use of force to prevent or stop aggression

    * to take military action against an aggressor

    * to recommend the admission of new Members

    * to exercise the trusteeship functions of the United Nations in "strategic areas"

    * to recommend to the General Assembly the appointment of the Secretary-General and, together with the Assembly, to elect the Judges of the International Court of Justice.

    No American president has ever attempted to acquire the image of King of the Universe by officiating at a meeting of the UN's highest body. Obama apparently believes that being flanked by council-member heads of state like Col. Moammar Qaddafi - who is expected to be seated five seats to Obama's right - will cast a sufficiently blinding spell on Americans.

    He undoubtedly hopes that the horrid state of the nation's economy, turmoil over health care, and a summer of racial scapegoating will pale by comparison. This role as UN Security Council chair will allow him to make decisions, influence legislation and resolutions, and set the agenda.
     
  2. Lowden Clear

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    I can't believe this. My first thought is questioning his allegence. He should not confuse the office of the President of the United States of America any more than he already does. He is reaching beyond his office when he should not be held apart from his office. Obama is wierd, top to bottom. Baffling.
     
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    I can beleive it and this ought to be a prime example why we need to question his dual allegiance.
     
  4. toddwv

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    It's about time the US entered back into the foreign diplomacy arena with something other than bombs and bullets.

    As the US's chief diplomat, it is well within the scope of his office to accept the chairmanship of the UN's most powerful council.

    After Bolten tried to burn every bridge and village there, Obama's popularity with the rest of the world will help re-cement our ties with many of our traditional allies that the Bush Administration slapped in the face on a continual basis.
     
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    Wow. What an egotistical maniac.
     
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    OH THE OUTRAGE. Obama should resign immediately for this!!!!!

    Or, you should shut the f up and let him do his monthly service to the UN. Maybe he can right the horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible taste that Bush and the conservatives in our country left in the worlds mouth, while destroying so much of the world we should all be sharing.

    You guys will spin ANYTHING into something dastardly and horrible about Obama.

    While I bet you were spinning the exact opposite for Bush when he was in office, right. "We should all do our duty and let the Patiot Act screw us in the bunghole". "We should all do our duty as patriots and let the Republicans steal from our coffers and pad themselves and their lobbying CEO's with that money." "We should all stand up and support a moronic, inept, idiot president that had destroyed the face of American pride and its international standing as the one great superpower while botching the biggest opportunity for international Unity in history after 9/11." Was that how you spun everyones outrage over everything Bush did? I'm sure it was, and I'm sure its a great irony that you're now calling Obama on teh fact that he uses Crest instead of Colgate and sleeps with his feet facing East, when clearly only a good Republican president will sleep with his feet facing south. What else can you spin and show fake outrage for? Hmmmmmm?????
     
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    Yes his popularity is growing. Unfortunately it growing with our enemies, not our allies.
     
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    This is a red herring. The U.N. is not a foreign state. This is no title of nobility.
     
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    He's got too much on his plate.

    Last major economy out of the recession, healthcare debate, cap and trade debate, wars in the middle east—

    but apparently he needs more.

    It's like when a kid takes too much food and throws half of it away.
     
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    What Obama is going to do at the UN goes way, way beyond partisanship or simple outrage. It's a disgrace. This is a very dangerous arena he has chosen to insert himself into, and frankly, I've not seen anything that indicates to me he has America's best interest in mind dealing with foreign affairs. He took every opportunity overseas to apologize for America, but did nothing to inspire her greatness. His actions have done little to insure our allies of our support and he's shown weakness in the face of enemies. So now, sitting in the council, he will be dealing with allies who are skeptical of his agenda and enemies who know by his capitulations he is weak. It will be a very dangerous situation.

    And please, I'm not naive. America is not perfect. But Obama, as the President of United States, should not be our most outspoken apologist or critic. Wouldn't you agree?
     
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    You left out TV interviews, union meetings, union meetings, union meetings, late night with DL and.... golf!:ignore:
     
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    me thinks wees got a weal big problem.

    :omg:
     
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    Bteam, I'm with you on the Patriot Act. It is horse (*)(*)(*)(*). Top to bottom. And Obama, who would be my hero if he helped to get rid of it, only seems to want more of the same. FOX News didn't tell me to say that either. I used my own mind to figure this out on my own.

    I can also figure out for myself how Obama accepting such a position challenges my perceptions of the role of our Commander-In-Chief. When some of our very own soldiers, who have been transferred in to UN Forces positions, even they refused to follow UN orders because it conflicted with their sworn oath to the USA. Our own lowly soldiers have a better sense of the Constitution than Obama does. This is unsettling.
     
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    1. Since when do right wing Obama haters, who generally think that the U.N. is a bunch of corrupt cheese eating surrender monkeys, actually CARE about who sits at the UN?

    2. Secondly, since Obama ultimately appoints and directs U.S. representatives and representation at the U.N., he has every right to appear before it as his countrys representative, as have many other Presidents of all sorts of countries, including the U.S.

    3. Since the U.N. was the creation of America, it is perfectly right that he should chair one of its councils should he so desire.

    4. Some of you might actually ask the question why he plans to chair this session? Did that cross anyones bigoted little mind?

    For a start, I would imagine that he is doing this for a reason, and I expect that the other members of the council will respond by sending their Heads of State as well.
     
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    I can only respond to the following :

    4. Some of you might actually ask the question why he plans to chair this session? Did that cross anyones bigoted little mind?

    Since I don't like the color of Obama's policies I'm not qualified to have a valid thought or an opinion due to racism.
     
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    Well, the conservatives in our country have continually given our country something to apologize for. Slavery, the Civil War, McCarthyism, the JFK assassination, the botched post 9/11 policies, the hatred and contempt towards other countries, the wealth hoarding, blatant racism and oppression of immigrant cultures, etc, etc, etc. Outside of fundamentalist Muslims, and Communist North Koreans, there isn't a more embarrassing fringe organization with influence in the entire human race right now than the conservative party in the US. They ARE an embarrassment to us and we SHOULD apologize for them. Of course, we should do somethign about them through some sort of rehabilition reprogramming of some sort, but they are just so (*)(*)(*)(*) resistant to logic and reasoning. So the rest of the world will sit back and continue laughing at our vast grouping of mentally ill idealogues and their so called "supremacy" over other countries, other cultures, and other political affiliations. Meanwhile, they couldn't be a bigger joke.
     
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    Oh! Yeah!:mrgreen:
     
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    Reality says otherwise. Obama is HUGELY popular in Europe.

    Al'Qaeda and the Taliban, not so happy.
     
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    Tell that to the Somali pirates our boys sniped. Oh wait, you can't...
     
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    He didn't apologize. Not even once. Every time I ask a rightie to produce these alleged apologies... *crickets chirping*

    Far from showing our enemies weakness, he has made some tough decisions on everything from pirates, to pursuing the Taliban to killing Al'Qaeda in Northern Pakistan.

    Now the right is starting to complain about a possible escalation in Afghanistan. The hypocrisy is deafening.
     
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    Do you realize that:

    - America started the UN
    - That we fund it
    - That we give them a Head Quarters in our country
    - That we need to work with the UN in many world affairs


    The UN isn't some outside influence we need to fear. It'd us and our alliance with other peaceful, Democratic Nations.
     
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    Is there even any real sources with this story? I see two lame brain blogs with it from days ago.
     
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    I have even more misgivings about Obama's allegiance after he chose to announce the Iran lies regarding their hidden uranium plant. He had his chance to blast them at the UN but didn't want to send a mixed message due to his dual positions, one as our president, the other as the UN head. When you have to suspend your duties as POTUS so that it won't conflict with your UN duties something is very wrong. Does Obama even notice this as a problem? Those 40,000 troops requested in Afghanistan? How about we dispatch them to the White House to help pull Obama's head out of his ass?

    WTF? He has only one job of priority, as POTUS he is to protect our freedom and to protect our people. Even the President of France is pissed at Obama for waiting until Pittsburg to bring up Iran. What is our president doing here?
     
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    I agree it is reaching beyond his office but not in the manner you describe.

    By this one act he is visibly changing the relationship between the United States and the U.N. from peers to subordinate and master.


    He is putting his office, President of the United States and by implied fiat, the sovereignty of the United States as subservient to the U.N.

    In a relationship between equals, one requests the other to delegate a representative to serve within the ones jurisdiction for a term of service to represent the interests of the other.

    In a relationship between supervisor and subordinate, the supervisor summons the subordinate to serve under their authority,
    for a term of service to represent the interests of the supervisor as pertains to the subordinates responsibilities within his jurisdiction.

    This is much more serious than a personal ego trip for Obama.
    I'm metaphorically biting my tongue.

    This man is a traitor to our country.
    Regardless of where he was born, he does not represent the interests of this country, but puts foreign interests,
    as demonstrated to the whole world by this act above the Interests and Sovereignty of the United States.

    Our government hasn't been a government Of the People, By the People For the People for many years, however the sitting POTUS has made that official.

    Wake up people.

    A government that violates Constitutional Authority is a government without law.
    As such, it may act with impunity to legal authority and commit egregious acts against the citizens of this country,
    such as selling us into financial slavery and offering us as subjects of foreign powers.

    Vote Ron Paul.
    He is the only one who will honestly tell you what is happening.
     

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