Nov 29 Boehner Repsonse to "What Cuts would you make?"

After saying "We have a serious spending problem that needs to be addressed." Boehner said "The White House needs to get serious."

So a reporter asked him "What spending cuts would you make?"
Boehner responded "We've offered a whole menu."
Reporter followed up with "Yes but what specifically would you cut."
Boehner: "I'm not going to get into the details."

And it's the White House that needs to get serious? This is the same kind of bullpucky they offered in the Ryan Plan. "It will work, we just won't tell you how. Just trust us."

The only thing I've seen from anyone, that's been specific, complete, in writing and verifiable from all sides, is the proposal to cut $100B from defense next year and continue slashing until we're at a little over half of what we spend now. Which would still have us spending more than the next ten countries combined.

Other than that, Obama hasn't passed a budget since taking office. The GOP has offered fairyland budgets that don't tell how they'll... budget. What a fustercluck.

 

Why can Republicans NEVER give us the "details" of their plans?

Is it because common Americans will lynch them for the giveaways to billionaires they have in mind as some kind of bizarre "solution" to America's problems?

 

It is a fair question. Of late... this trend is actually rampant on both sides. Don't forget Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It"

 

Why aren't we seeing the details of the Democrats' spending cuts, Captain Selective Outrage?

Is it because they don't have any? Is it because those idiots believe that their class warfare tax distraction is the solution to America's fiscal problems?

 

Well, except that we had the ENTIRE content of the bill IN HAND to look at, so anyone who wanted to know the EXACT details for any item could look and see.

Indeed, the Republicans don;t need to SAY it, they can just write their bill and we'll read it for ourselves before passage, as I did with the Obamacare bill.

Of course, her comment was referring to the fact that the implementation and bill itself would be amended and interpreted, along with the discounting the whackdoodle suggestions the Republicans were screaming abut, like "Death Panels" and "Illegal Aliens".

 

they are trying to trick the public into thinking Obama wants the cuts and will later say he decided what to cut, so if I were Obama I would make them lay it on the table for all to see, what do you want to cut republicans

 

We have.

What is unclear about "vote for extending the tax cuts for everyone except for those with income over $250,000"?

Is that somehow UNCLEAR to you? Any waffling or incomes that are not specified there????

 

A 5% reduction in the deficit is NOT a solution.

 

until a bill passes it is subject to change, thus yes, to know what a bill contains is not finalized until it passed by both houses and signed by the President

what does the bill in it's current state contain would of been a better question, then you could just read the bill and all it's current changes


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you know it, they want to cut Social Security, Medicare, ect.. they just want Obama to say he wants those cuts, if I was Obama I would hand over a list of cuts in waste, military and entitlements for those that do not need them (IE the rich, corporations that outsource and oil companies)

if republicans want more, let them take it to the people


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it's a start

until the economy gets back on it's feet your not gonna have a balanced budget, but you can reduce the spending that is not essential

removing the caps on the Social Security tax is another much needed item to address


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Tom Coburn, REPUBLICAN, has a $1T per year outline of cuts.

http://www.c-span.org/History/Event...-Specific-Cuts-to-Defense-Budget/10737435869/

 

I like holding up EVERYTHING until promised cuts are made. Its called biting the bullet. Its what responsible people do. You don't cut out your video game rental budget, and pretend the credit card will be endlessly available for everything else, like trips to Europe and a new Audi.

 

can you list them out, I only saw this from the link, just the top ten, republicans think the tax cuts are not worth it, so looking for the big ticket items

http://www.c-span.org/History/Event...-Specific-Cuts-to-Defense-Budget/10737435869/

"Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn (R) held a press conference Thursday to unveil his new report highlighting budget cuts for the Defense Department. His report outlines how the Department can save $67.9 billion over ten years on what he describes as “non-defense defense spending.” "

what percent of the "$67.9 billion over ten years " is that of the amount that ending the tax cuts for the rich save in ten years 10%


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I believe they have suggested cuts before such as slashing benefits to hard working Americans and retirees that need assistance in putting food on the table and keeping a roof over their heads. They don't want to address the need but instead their idea is to throw low income individuals under the bus to reduce the deficits while increasing the incomes of the super-wealthy.

 

Watch the video. His website has a complete list.

http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/?p=deficit-reduction

 

None of that is true. the bill was written in secret by dem staffers, voted on in the middle of the night on Christmas eve on a strickly partisan vote. No one was allowed to see the final bill until after is was passed. No republican amendments were allowed to come to the floor, no open discussion prior to the vote.

Obamacare was rammed up our collective asses by obama, pelosi and reid. Obama promised to put the healthcare debate on c-span, Nope, another lie.

Boehner and the GOP should not agree to any tax increases until the spending cuts are defined and made part of the deal.

 

Exactly the point of my OP. Obama did a terrible job in his first 18 months and ObamaCare was the prime example of this. However, since 2010 the Dems have changed their strategy and it has worked for them.

You might come across more credibly if you actually read the OP before criticizing it. It names several examples of exactly what you say does not exist.

Unfortunately, the GOP would have nothing to do with Coburn's budget and gave him their ire for it. Coburn was one of the Repubs who quite eloquently reinforced the point of my OP when he said “You have to demonstrate what you are for not what you are against,”

 

No, we haven't, and Boehner hasn't seen them either. The Democraps haven't produced squat except tax hikes and a list of things they won't cut or even discuss cutting.

Tax hikes aren't spending cuts, Bright Eyes.

 

Sort of like "We have to pass the bill so you can learn whats in it" from Nancy Pelosi?

wake up

 

Getting todays GOP to offer an idea, tell the truth or to make a stand on something reasonable is like nailing jello to the wall.

 

Nonsense but hey, you make a good mouth piece for the DNC

 

The press and the progressive horde would be all over any specific cuts proposed by a Republican. There would testimonials by people who would die if that cut was made. Only the messiah himself can suggest cuts and the progressive horde knows it.

Reid and Peelowsea have been patty themselves on the backs for the one billion in cuts that they made. Our deficit is $1.2T and these fools are proud of a $1B cut and that would be a cut to the growth of spending.

We should means test all government expenditures to individuals. A person with a net worth equal to $100k per year does not need social security, Medicare, or government retirement for that matter. Why do the liberals hate rich people and let them keep SS that they don't need?

 

You're attempting to talk rational and reasonable and truthful to a con who honestly thinks sound bites count.

 

I have to disagree with you on SS. Those people were forced to pay SS taxes their entire working lives, the govt must keep its contract with them and make their SS payments. Now, if you want to make participation in SS voluntary, fine. but as long as its mandatory, then there should be no means testing.