November Temps Set New Global High

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  1. Lunchboxxy

    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    Despite what the deniers would like you to believe, the earth is indeed still warming.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/17/world/climate-november-temps/index.html?iref=allsearch

    You can keep burying your head in the sand, but eventually the sand will get too hot for your face.
     
  2. AmericanNationalist

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    ROFL. Are you kidding me? An average of 56* And according to your own article, it's but only 1.4 degrees higher. Look, if you want to give Al Gore and the criminal world scammers your money then be my guest. But even supposing it did get warmer, what, if any negative effects does that have? And how or by what measures can humans control it, or are responsible for it, etc?

    Global Warming is a scam, and for proof, the so-called leaders of industry themselves take their luxurious vacations, despite our oxygen supposedly "ruining" the planet.

    We're not burying our hands, we're laughing while our bank accounts aren't plundered.
     
  3. Lunchboxxy

    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, 1.4 degrees is quite a bit in the scientific world, especially when you're talking on a GLOBAL scale. Maybe one month wouldn't be that significant on it's own, but in context it is.


    There is no denying the world is warming. If you really don't know the effects of a warming planet then it is clear you don't actually know anything about climate change. Here are some basic links to get you started. Here is a little blerb from the NASA website that relates to your "1.4 degrees is nothing" belief.

    http://climate.nasa.gov/effects
    http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/impacts-adaptation/
    http://www.noaa.gov/climate.html


    The deniers are the only ones interested in politicians. Those of us rooted in reality care about the science, what it shows and what the scientists say is happening.
     
  4. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :lol: The Force of "Jamming head in sand" is strong in this one, Obi-Wan!

    Here we see the very epitome of Denialist "head in the sand" denial!

    There are umpteen 1000 reviewed scientific papers and studies by reputable scientists detailing what the negative effects it will have and how and by what measures humans can control it and are responsible for it. And each year there is a world summary report and review of the latest works and discoveries for ANYONE to peruse.

    Its quite clear that this person has never read a SINGLE ONE of them!
     
  5. awesome bossum

    awesome bossum Banned

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    Yeah...

    [video]http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/16/21919824-near-record-lows-more-snow-coming-for-weather-beaten-midwest-northeast?lite[/video]

    We could play this game all winter...
     
  6. Lunchboxxy

    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    Yeahhhh....that's not global. If you would have actually read the OP, it acknowledged that US had a below average November, but globally it was the hottest November on record.
     
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    Regardless of whether a person believes what is specifically causing Global Warming and all indications show this to be due to CO2 emissions....but even if a person would argue this....there is no doubt Global Warming is a reality.

    Besides the obvious problems such warming creates such as rising sea levels and species extinctions due to Polar Ice Melt....the gravest problem that will be faced at least in the short term is the ever increasing strength of major storm systems and extremely unstable weather patters.

    As the Rules of Thermodynamics dictate....more energy introduced into a system will result in more system instability until a balance is restored....and one of the possibilities of balance restoration is in fact Global Warming resulting in an Ice Age.

    This has happened before and will happen again but it has never happened as fast as it currently is happening now and more so than in the last 800,000 years.

    As far as anyone trying to argue that Global Warming is not occurring then tell that to the U.S. Military and U.S. Navy which right now is considering to stay the retirement of the USN. Nuclear Carrier Nimitz and refit it for Arctic Patrol duty along with a compliment of Carrier Group ships.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Does 1.4 degrees higher than average, mixed with near-record lows and record snowfalls in other places, prove that we're looking at global warming? Or is it just a mixed bag? This winter doesn't settle anything besides to serve as a reminder that the more dramatic climate change models were badly wrong.
     
  9. Lunchboxxy

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    Did you rea the OP, GLOBALLY this was the warmest November on record. Even with record snowfalls and near record lows in some parts of the planet it still turned out to be 1.4 degrees above the 20th century average and the warmest November on record.

    And exactly what climate models were "badly wrong"?
     
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    If anything Global Warming will increase the amount of snow fall dramatically in certain areas as well this additional energy placed into the system will alter entire weather patters and move Jet Streams thus some areas might experience severe cold and snow when other areas might have practically zero precipitation.

    Cyclonic and Tornadic activity will dramatically increase but regardless of all this over all mean Global Temps. will rise.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I did. Did you? Look at what it says:

    If we remove the liberal spin, this is actually evidence that temperatures have cooled since 2005. But the left needs to have their fake issues and their culture war.
     
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    Considering that nothing can or will be done about climate change regardless of it being true of false.....why argue about it unless you just want to.
     
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    You guy's are KILLING me.

    You can't just look at one month of one year and say...SEE!....this means it is or is not happening.

    We have taken 800,000 years of Ice Core Data and we KNOW....not guess or think but KNOW....CO2 levels are rising at a faster rate then anytime in those 800,000 years and as well the number of CO2 Parts per Million are at their highest number in 800,000 years and are increasing faster than at any time in that period.

    CO2 is not ver the really big threat but it will and is causing it as Gel Methane existing at the bottom of our oceans and at the bottom of Arctic Lakes and existing in Permafrost world wide is bubbling out as gas.

    Methane CH4 is 72 times better at trapping heat than CO2.

    It is the METHANE once released that will tip us over the edge and this is happening NOW.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Yeah... in the outback...

    So who needs to read what exactly???
     
  15. Lunchboxxy

    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    Uh no, it isn't. That doesn't make any sense at all, what so ever.

    What it said is that this year has the second warmest September-November period on record. 2005 being the warmest sept-nob period ever recorded. 2005 was also the second warmest year on record, 2010 being the warmest year on record. I have no idea how that somehow means that we have cooled since 2005.....

    - - - Updated - - -

    What?

    10char
     
  16. Rainbow Crow

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    There is nothing wrong with pointing out that it getting cooler since 2005 is not evidence of it getting warmer since 2005. The article says nothing about 2010 or year-long vs. Sept-Nov, I am just going off of the temperature measurements provided in the article here.
     
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    Except for the part where that's not true.
     
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    Ummm... record extremes... ummm......
     
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    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    Ok.

    10char
     
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    Sorry, we don't do "10char"...

    [video=youtube;U-BwrkGy4kU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-BwrkGy4kU[/video]
     
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    Actually that's exactly what it says. In The part that you quoted......
     
  22. Rainbow Crow

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    You are trying really hard to cherry pick. I was still in college back in 2005. It was really warm then. The IPCC hadn't been proven wrong yet. There had been no climategate email leaks. No one was trying to push "global cooling." I believed in climate change back then.

    It's been many years and the conclusions haven't born out. New data doesn't support the conclusions that people are drawing. You are posting up an article about this being a warm September-November, but the article also says that it has gotten cooler in September-November since 2005. If you want to talk about 2010 then you should post a source, but it seems likely that things are only going to get cooler from here based upon sunspot activity.
     
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    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

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    Well since the IPCC hasn't been "proven wrong", the climate gate emails literally proves nothing and no one is pushing global cooling, you should be ok.

    I think you should look up the meaning of cherry picking though.

    I should know better than to feed the trolls.
     
  24. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Get with the program my brony, AGW (that's anthropogenic global warming) is going to be killed off by a decline in sunspot activity and global cooling, even if it had been true, which no one will be able to prove since their only real evidence has been temperature trends and those don't support their conclusions any longer.
     
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    Literally 0% of that is true
     

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