NRA chief calls gun ownership a 'fundamental human right,' rejects calls for new restrictions

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You don't understand the definition of arm, I guess.

    Here:
    arm

    verb
    armed; arming; arms
    Definition of arm (Entry 2 of 5)

    transitive verb

    1 : to furnish or equip with weapons
    ...

    One can bear grenades, automatic rifles, claymors, bombs, flamethrowers, etc. All are infringed upon in some fashion.

    What is a dirty bomb?
    A dirty bomb is a mix of explosives, such as dynamite, with radioactive powder or pellets. When the dynamite or other explosives are set off, the blast carries radioactive material into the surrounding area.

    A dirty bomb is not the same as an atomic bomb
    An atomic bomb, like those bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, involves the splitting of atoms and a huge release of energy that produces the atomic mushroom cloud.

    A dirty bomb works completely differently and cannot create an atomic blast. Instead, a dirty bomb uses dynamite or other explosives to scatter radioactive dust, smoke, or other material in order to cause radioactive contamination.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/emergencies/dirtybombs.htm
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    The point being not just about nukes, but about all the infringements we have on arms ownership. Get it now!!!
     
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    So, if it was about State's rights then States should be able to limit arms if they don't see a need for weapons to remain free?
    Or have the right to actually not infringe on any arms?

    So, the USSC, should not be ruling on State's rights issues?

    And thx for the clarification.
     
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    I'm sorry, your idea that nuclear weapons are "arms" is beyond silly and why I'll never give an inch on 2A. This right is to remind the gov they work for us, not the other way round.
     
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    The right is to keep and bear arms. Not just guns.
    Now as another pointed out, nukes are not bearable arms. So I concede that point.

    My main point is, grenades, automatic rifles, claymors, flamethrowers, etc, are bearable arms. And those are infringed.
     
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    1. The 13 States were joining into a Union with each other, but insisted on the "new" Union recognized that the States continued to hold the right to have a Militia. Nothing in the Constitution required a State to have or maintain a Militia, so in that sense they also were not required to store arms.

    2. The 2nd clause recognized that the Feds could not infringe on the citizens of the States to arm themselves. As a member of a Union each State was obligated to honor that right of citizens in other States to arm themselves. However, each State could quite possibly regulate (at the bidding of its citizens) to regulate arms in their State.

    3. To certain limits (which the States gave to the Feds).

    4. YW.
     
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    In other words, do we allow infringements? And the answer is yes.

    So now, society just needs to find the line in the sand it wants.
     
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    It's drawn, we're happy, forks still don't make people fat, news at 10.
     
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    It may be drawn, but not all are happy with the current line.
    That's why it's in the sand, it can be changed.
    What the hell does a fork have to do with this topic?
     
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    blaming guns for violent people is as stupid as blaming forks for making people fat. Or pencils for misspelled words.
     
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    Correct. But I don't know why you think that's relevant to anything I've said.

    What is a concern, is certain types of people should not have such easy access to guns. And we need to treat people who have tendencies to want to do harm on others.
    There are profiles of those who shoot at schools.

    There are many ways to try to slow or stop mass shootings. It's not easy and 1 approach won't work.

    People driving drunk can kill people. Do we not put into place laws to prevent people from driving drunk?

    We don't stop people from drinking or driving. But do try to prevent both at the same time.
     
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    And who would trust the government to change it, not to mention who wants to place their trust in the “other” half of the electorate who had such a lack of intellectual curiosity they sleep walked into electing Biden who is gleefully burning our country down!
     
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    YOU (collectively) change it! This mealy-mouth excuse that “the guvmint done it!” wears a bit thin...
     
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    The gubmint presents the changes to be voted on by the stupid people who elected a Biden and Harris as if the USA is a charity softball game.
    I say leave things alone.
    Too many people think history began on the day they were born.
     

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