NRA torches Biden admin for plan to change rules for gun buyers, sellers

Or any other time during the duration of the United States.

 

I don’t think being a pain in the ass makes it unconstitutional. Not saying the court will let it stand, but I think the question stands…
If you can require background checks, seems logical you can legally expand which sellers must conduct them.

 

Psychotic folks that want to kill someone... don't need guns. A gun is just a tool... so is a knife, a hammer, poison, a Hillary speech...

 

Just another false conspiracy flag. Any petty issue, and RWers make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Law abiding gun owners have little to no issue of following the rules.

 

I run them several times a month for prospects new hires. We use two different online systems that cost between $18.00 and $112.00 depending on the level of check. They can be as thorough as we need including employment and financial verification and driving records.

That would likely be one of many options.

I don’t — if the court rules in the affirmative I think we will see dozens of apps that can run NICS or similar.

 

The US has one of the highest gun homicide rates in the world.

Why don't Americans prefer to use a knife to kill?

 

Do you have a graph of Constitutional rights in these countries?

 

Slave owners and those who didn't want women to have the right to vote used the same arguments as you in another era.

 

So?

 

How are you relating women's ability to vote and slavery to the Constitution as it reads in 2023. Women have rights today... all races do too. Do you need a calendar and a copy of the Constitution w/amendments?

 

Free speech is dangerous.

 

Like slave owners, you hide behind a piece of legislation to justify your indefensible position.

The proliferation of guns is destroying the social fabric of this country.

It's a fact of life.

There are thousands of statistics on the subject that you are incapable of contradicting.

To say that gun ownership is a good thing because it's a constitutional right is totally stupid.

 

Nonsense.

 

And what's your solution, and I mean a realistic solution?

 

Free speech is a sacred American right. Americans have died to maintain it.

 

One thing at a time.

Do you agree that the US has a serious gun problem?

 

You could say the same thing about cable news, radio talk shows, and social media. Does your same argument hold up? Should we eliminate the 1st amendment? There are many peer reviewed papers that show a correlation between mass shootings and the media's hype or social media. Probably, more of a correlation than to AR-15s. Of course you won't go after the 1st yet because that would be political suicide at this moment in time. You'll go after the 2nd first, then start working on the 1st. Socialism is very patient that way.

 

If you think guns are destroying the social fabric of this country, maybe you should consider moving out of that ghetto into a better neighborhood. Guns aren't destroying anything here... except for some ducks from time to time.

Americans have died to defend our Constitutional rights. If Hitler and Tojo couldn't take away our Constitutional rights, I doubt if you can.

But seriously, consider moving out of that lousy neighborhood where your "fabric of life" is threatened. Life is good here.

 

Then you should be subject to a driver's test every time you get in your car. And of course, if you blame the fatal collision that may result on the car, it should be arrested too.

If you have been vetted and deemed safe to buy a firearm before, why should you be required to repeat the test you have already passed?
Public safety is neither the purpose of this proposed law nor the effect it would have. IF you are a rational person, it should be easy and obvious to see that.

The fear of guns is hardly a validation or justification for stupidity, and it shouldn't get any consideration. Every rational gun owner is in favor of enforcing the laws that punish firearms misuse- and doing so aggressively. You are talking about creating laws to punish honorable people who are no threat because you are afraid of guns. Yet you don't understand that such laws will not keep the guns out of the hands of criminals, who do not care about laws, which are the people you SHOULD FEAR.

It is the person that poses a threat, not the weapon they choose that you should fear. Violent people cause violence, the weapon is only a tool of convenience. A gallon of gas can be an extremely dangerous weapon, you can make a dozen molotov cocktails with it. Assuming I used your framework of logic, I would think that people with a phobia of guns are likely to attack the rights of others, and should have to have a thorough background check every time they want to buy gasoline, because some people have a fear of being burned to death.

NO gun ever killed anyone until a person chose to use it as a weapon. The PERSON, not the weapon, makes that choice. He could also choose a knife, a baseball bat, a golf club, a rock, things you never think of as weapons, but deadly in the hands of a deranged murderer. Nearly everything around you is a weapon. They are in your kitchen drawer, your tool box, on your desk.... and on your person; as illustrated by the fact that more people are murdered each year with the weapons of fists and feet than by all long guns of all calibers and styles put together. YOU are a walking weapon. Perhaps if we registered you, there would be less threat to people. If we removed people who want to kill, no weapons would be a danger to anyone.

This BS continues because people refuse to think, to use common sense, to accept reality.

And background checks are not constitutional in the first place. The constitution says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED", which is crystal clear, and it means the right shall not be hindered, restricted or obstructed in any way. We have tolerated that infringement mostly because people in power want control, and they cultivate it by promoting fear, then encouraging people like you think something is being done to relieive your fears. Since that is appeasement rather than functional, it's temporary- and the fearful keep responding to the fear mongers, coming back, thinking if we double down a few more times their fears will go away. Then- Only the government would have guns. Just like North Korea.

IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE IT NECESSARY FOR ME TO DEFEND MYSELF- WHY DO YOU FEAR ME HAVING THE ABILITY TO DEFEND MYSELF?

 

Key phrase... "ANIOTHER era"... not now.

 

Not where I live. We're fine here. You must live in a bad neighborhood. Consider moving to a better place.

 

Nope.

 

When you can kill by insulting someone, your comparison will be good.

In the meantime....

 

Mass killings happen everywhere.

As far as I know, voting to change the Constitution is also a constitutional right.

 

You have no such right.
Your state legislature votes to ratify an amendment, or call for a convention for that purpose.
If you do wind up voting for it, its because your state granted you the privilege of doing so.