NYT casts doubt on Israel’s claims Gaza hospital attack

Yeah. You say this, while I got the NYT in the OP saying the missile was shot from a site run by the IDF's Iron dome program. It was the only missile around that anybody sees on the vids. The only thing the NYT doesn't know is what kind of missile Israel shot. But big deal. Them are the facts, not seeing you dispute a thing.

 

Why hasn't Hamas provided the missile parts so people can examine it?

 

I think they are a bit busy fighting war criminals.

 

I think you mean dishonest and lazy.

 

And yet you ignored my quote from that very article that says you claim of "proof" is Bull shart....you are dismissed.

 

They're not fighting the Russians, silly.

 

Nonsense.
By not knowing what Israel shot, still means the NYT still points at Israel that they shot something.
By citing the Israeli military that it may or may not have gone over the border, it doesn't mean it did not go over the border.

You're just twisting facts on this.

 

Yeah. Depriving millions of civilians of clean water, food, electricity, and medical aid... it still means Israel makes war crimes.
Disproportionally blowing up all them civilian housing: war crime
Collonies in the west bank: war crime

 

Most IDF are not involved in any of this. Especially not reservists.

 

I oppose the Gaza blockade. It has failed.

But condemn all IDF as war criminals that deserve to die? That's some satanic Islamist **** that I can't agree with.

 

Someone (meaning you) should have eaten much fewer lead based paint chips back in the day.....ahhhh....what could have been...

 

Not seeing any kind of an argument disputing anything I wrote. You're just replying with a personal insult and so show that you're conceding. Thanks.

 

Yeah, go with that.
Oy vey....

 

Indeed. I be going with the OP saying it was an Israeli missile where Israel lied it wasn't theirs.
An Israeli missile going in a straight line towards the hospital.

A hospital Israel threatened to evacuate or be bombed.
Israel who previously bombed hospitals.
mesjogge

 

How cute, as you wrote the OP.

 

Now that's an interesting theory, I hadn't heard. You didn't come up with that on your own, did you? Can you offer a link?

 

OmG...that's some classic sh*t right there...

 

sure sure... I quoted things from the article, and put it in the OP.
The text there isn't really my creation, by copy pasting. But hey.
I'll accept being the cute one.

 

Just my own theory based on various reported observations being:
1: we see a rocket launched in Gaza.
2: few seconds later we see a small explosion of light in the sky
3: reports of seeing that object in the sky appear to reverse direction
4: the hospital large explosion

Point on 1: we see the exhaust flame straight after launch then extinguishes = no more fuel = now running under gravity.

Point on 2: intercept with dome rocket

Point of 3: The Gazan rocket blown up. The object reported in reverse was actually part of the dome rocket carrying on in the same direction. The dome rockets have enough fuel to launch to a distance of 70km, it's only travelled about 4km

Point on 4: explosion caused by the dome rocket excess fuel

We saw similar reports during the first gulf war. Much of the damage in Israel said to be from scud missiles was actually caused by patriot missiles, either from bits of that missile after it exploded in the sky or the missile completely missing the scud and exploding on the ground

 

It could have been the Iron Dome itself firing at the hospital. In a previous war Israel used white phosphorus to rain down on a residential area. To use WP like that, is using it as a WMD and is forbidden, but they did it anyways. Israel flat out denied it was WP while the picture of it was making it REAL obvious that Israel was lying. The lying went on for like 3 weeks before they admitted to it. And THAT'S how Israel reacts when it's crystal clear that they are lying.

I'll be guessing that this is the part where NYT says, we know there was something flying that came from Israel. They put up where it originated from. They put up where you can see a blast. We can all see it's in a rathe straight path towards the hospital. NYT does also say they don't know what is flying. And that leaves room open to all kinds of weapons.

 

So you are assuming that the Iron Dome rockets can destroy a Palestinian rocket, cause it to explode, without blowing up, themselves? I have to admit, it seems plausible, and a neat bit of out of the box thinking. The way that I'd previously heard it analyzed, all the unspent fuel was from Islamic Jihad's North Korean rocket. But if those don't have as much fuel as the Iron Dome rockets-- where did you get information on these two things?-- then, kudos, on your clever theory!

 

Not quite. I'm thinking that the dome rocket did explode in the vicinity of the target rocket but did not completely destroy itself giving rise to part of the dome rocket plus excess fuel to continue in the same direction onwards to the hospital. I'm skeptical on the Israeli claim that the other rocket was North Korean which came out at the same time as the release of the fake audio. The dome uses Tamir rockets which have a range upto 70km so would have carried excess fuel. I don't know the spec of NK rockets but unguided Gazan rockets do not carry excess fuel.

 

The NYT already has proven to me they have a side.

 

"The Time's finding does not answer what actually did cause the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital blast, or who is responsible."

You lie.

 

As if I would ever care about your opinion when you bring nothing on the table disputing their research.