Obama approval plummeting: Lowest ever

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  1. FearandLoathing

    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

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    In the wake of the finance stand off, where the common wisdom was that the hard line Obama won, comes some more bad news for what is becoming a beleaguered White House: A record number of Americans disapprove of Obama's presidency.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/obama-approval-rating-poll-99135.html?hp=l2

    Now more bade news. The poll was taken before reports that Obama knew all along people would not be allowed to keep their plans, as he had been promising for three years.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    REALLY bad news, when one also factors in that the sampling was 9-10% oversampled Democrats, 43% - 34%


    Strong Democrat ............................. 18
    Not very strong Democrat ............... 11
    Independent/lean Democrat ............ 14
    Strictly Independent ......................... 17
    Independent/lean Republican .......... 14
    Not very strong Republican ............. 8
    Strong Republican ........................... 12
    Other (VOL) ..................................... 4
    Not sure ......................................... 2
     
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    32% sounds about right. That's the hard core Left and their wards.

    Obama isn't done falling either. There A LOT of cancelled insurance plans and increased premiums in the mail as we speak.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The poll is 43% Democrats,and 34% Republicans...and Obama is STILL NOSE DIVING....
     
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    I'm sure he still has a 98 percent approval rating amongst blacks..........
     
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    Just wait till April 16th...
     
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    Of course with the obamacare debacle and Putin making him wear a dress obama's approval rating has cratered. hahaha!
     
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    Is it Zero yet, if not it's too high.
     
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    If Obama had the pit bull press that tore Bush to shreds EVERY DAMN DAY instead of regularly fellating him, his approval would be 15 percentage points lower.

    41% = 26% That's about right. Most of the blacks, most of the drones, some academics, some union thugs, that'd do it.
     
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    Shows that what the liberals are saying is mostly hot air. As noted, the Tea Part is allegedly dead and this does not include The Lie. I await with baited breath to see that one.
     
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    This poll was from BEFORE he was exposed as a KNOWING, COMPLETE LIAR about Obamacare.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Should be cataclysmic to the Left...
     
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    Quite the TEAM the New Transparent Democrats have isnt it,,,


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    Adn the current Official Defense is that OBAMA HAS NO IDEA WHAT HIS CABINET is DOING...
     
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    Presidential approval ratings rise and fall. Second term ratings for Presidents are generally lower than their first term.

    Nothing new here.
     
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    Obama is not up for re-election. Retired presidents coast on their laurels, and as the first black president he will have plenty of those to retreat into.

    Republicans need to reframe themselves to stay relevant. I think there is a lot of room for that if they can become a little more open minded about the problems we currently face, and if they can let go of the social issues. The moral majority of the 1980's is looking a little battle fatigued and really needs a modern update.

    People not liking Obama is unlikely to make them like republicans, especially when many of the reasons liberals are becoming disloyal is the idea that he is just like every other politician.
     
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    Right! Just a naturally occurring fluctuation that has nothing to do with the fact that The Lightworker has been lying through his teeth about his much despised health care debacle.
     
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    " If you have aplan you like, you can keep your plan."

    You're right. Obama lying through his teeth...AGAIN.

    Nothing new , indeed.
     
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    I thought they had regular huddles?....

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    As has been mentioned, Obama is not up for reelection, so those polls have no impact whatsoever.
    Congressional repulicants, however, have a problem...

    Oh, and what conservative politician has enough support to take on Hillary in 2016?
     
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    " If you have a plan you like, you can keep your plan."

    That oughtta do it....
     
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    " If you have a plan you like, you can keep your plan." is not a "problem for the republicans".

    Quite the contrary. It is a BIG PART of the upcoming retaking of the Senate, and the expansion of power in the House for them.




    "Oh, and what conservative politician has enough support to take on Hillary in 2016"?



    Anyone who reminds the voters of this:

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    accurate to a point. However having been exposed to five long years of liberal boasting and more recent bombast about beating the "terrorists, jihadists, and trairtors" in congress, seeing Obama slide to George W. Bush's levels is, to say the least, discomforting for the lemmings.

    And, with other presidents, getting that rap in the second term, Clinton and Bush in particular took some of the arrogant swagger out of them. That won't happen with this guy.

    You disappoint horribly though with the race card. a president is a president. No one gave Kennedy extra credits for being Catholic, so take the skin color thing and park it. He will be judged on what he, himself, identified as "signature", Obamacare and that's tanking faster than the US dollar.

    I doubt very much either, Obama will be seen very favorably on the race relations file. He's already being vilified for the Trevor Martin comment.

    Cling to the hope he will be gauged because he's the first black, because there is nothing else he can claim as a success and have anyone believe him anymore.
     
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    It does seem to be emerging as though the last-ditch attempt to de fund Obamacare was part of the plan. It seems as though someone in the company of one Ted Cruz had advance information on how bad was the roll out going to be, that Obama's "if you like it you can keep it" would be exposed for the lie it was - oh how many times have we seen liberal trolls post those clips in defense the plan they swore was the utopia in the making, where are they now? - that they deliberately took what appeared to be a hopeless stand.

    But now they are looking more and more like maverick heroes, Bruce Willis leading the lone man against evil. It's Hollywood and I think Obama is NOT sleeping as well as when he let Ambassador Stephens and his Marine guard die needlessly.
     
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    Not the race card, just an observation. No matter how you judge him he is the first. Its a much bigger deal than being Irish or mormon or any of that.

    Its a matter of opinion as to whether he has been racially divisive, the Trevor comment is only a big deal to a few. Saying nothing to such a publicly hot issue would have damaged him worse. I think nothing against people who think he has done a lot of damage to racial relations, I just disagree. (do you think Jessie Jackson would have done better?)

    Bill Clinton seems to be popular enough these days and pulls big crowds when he appears. George.W Bush needs a bit more separation before people start to appreciate his accomplishments. I hope time will end up being a little kinder to him, he seems to be universally villainized right now.

    I doubt the affordable healthcare act will be the legacy Obama hoped for. But healthcare before it in the US was no less screwed up, so I don't see a point to cheering its downfall.

    (Its great doing this FAL, I feel like I can breath...)
     
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    Well, on the last point too, I have to disagree. And there I have to base my opinion on Obamacare and its "benefits" to US society on medical economists who seem to be emerging in droves this fall. They are showing up in the radio talk shows here with all the debate now over the mandate and the poor roll out. I have to confess I do not well enough comprehend what they are saying to give it proper treatment here, but the gist is that things weren't that bad in the US, that what Obama should have done is first legislate a kind of patients bill of rights, setting boundaries in what the insurance companies could and couldn't do.
    They are now saying that the result, if it should last five to ten years, that more people will be PAYING for insurance, but less will be covered; most will have such ridiculously high deductibles as to not have any insurance at all.

    If they are right, and they have NO reason to exaggerate, these are academics, usually left wing, it will mean Americans will, within five to ten years trail the world in actual care and lead the world in costs and technological procedures. It's not pretty.

    So as a legacy? I would say yes, like The Great Society was Johnson's.
     

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