Obama backs reparations for the first time and slams ‘politics of white resistance’

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  1. Fangbeer

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    Why am I to blame for something someone who shares my skin color did?
     
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    dodging? lol. You are the one making the claim. You can support it by showing your tax returns if you want. You probably aren't willing to do that.
     
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    Yes sir, I did. I am self employed in Los Angeles. We have city taxes on top of fed and state. What percentage do you believe that adds up to?
     
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    Good example. If I commit a crime and receive a 5 year sentence, can each of my 5 kids do 1 year?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Worse, jail the guy who lives two towns over because he also has blue eyes.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Better yet, how about I pay myself reparations for the way my ancestors were treated by my other ancestors?
     
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    No you didn't. you made a claim.
    less than 50%
     
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    More than you? I mean, no one is stopping you from paying more than you owe. If you feel guilty about something maybe you should be paying for it.
     
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    You are correct. It is less than 50%. What was your best guess?
     
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    I didn’t make a guess. I simply pointed out you claiming you paid 50% in taxes is nonsense
     
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    The implication behind the demand for reparations is that if blacks had not been oppressed they would be as affluent as whites. T his implication ignores persistent average differences in black and white ability levels and behavior.

    Those who blame white racism for black social pathology need to explain why black rates of crime and illegitimacy have risen since the civil rights legislation and the War on Poverty was declared during the 1960's. They need to explain why black academic performance has not improved, despite expensive spending programs like Head Start and No Child Left Behind.
     
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    U.S. public more aware of racial inequality but still rejects reparations: Reuters/Ipsos polling, JUNE 25, 2020

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans are growing increasingly aware of racial inequality in the United States, but a large majority still oppose the use of one-time payments, known as reparations, to tackle the persistent wealth gap between Black and white citizens.

    According to Reuters/Ipsos polls this month,
    only one in five respondents agreed the United States should use “taxpayer money to pay damages to descendants of enslaved people in the United States.”

    Calls are growing from some politicians, academics and economists for such payments to be made to an estimated 40 million African Americans, amid an expanding discussion about race in America. Any federal reparations program could cost trillions of dollars, they estimate.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...parations-reuters-ipsos-polling-idUSKBN23W1NG

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    Reparations would be a massive transfer payment from all whites, including poor whites, to all blacks, including rich blacks like Barack Obama. I doubt support for reparations has risen since last June. This is clearly a losing issue for the Democratic Party. The more the Democrats move on this the more they guarantee Republican dominance of American politics. Nevertheless, an important Democrat constituency supports reparations.

    The best policy for the Democrats would be to mimic Republican policy on abortion: Republican politicians give occasional rhetoric support for outlawing abortion, but they do nothing of a serious nature to actually outlaw abortion. This has worked for the GOP since the Reagan administration.




     
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    You are still incorrect and I will back up my statement 100%. More than half the money I take in goes to the government. I started with the state tax. Once you acknowledge that, I have many more items on my list. I am surprised you have doubt considering I am self employed and live in L.A.

    If you are not willing to have an honest discussion on this issue, please do not reply.
     
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    Only way you can demonstrate this is to provide your tax returns. I have been having an honest discussion. Your claim of 50% in taxes is nonsense.
     
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    Tax rates are available to the public. I can easily defend my statement if you are willing to acknowledge facts. Perhaps you are not self employed and live in a more tax friendly part of the country.

    Once the city, state, and federal income taxes are acknowledged, I will explain the remaining percentage.
     
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    My guess is he was more worried about being reelected.
     
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    I can understand giving reparations to those who were slaves and to their immediate offspring of one generation or perhaps two. Then how would you determine who is the offspring of slaves to all those blacks who arrived here afterwards?

    since there is no one alive today that was a slave or the first generation of a slave, this whole thing is rather stupid in my opinion. .
     
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    Agree. When you mash all the bullshit out of it, it's just another way that Democrats are conniving to use a new, 'from-scratch' welfare program to control the Black vote in this country.

    And they've done so massively for over 55 years!
     
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    instead of constantly claiming you can support the statement, you could have actually supported it.
     
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    I have and you refuse to acknowledge it. I started at city, state, and federal income tax. Once you get to that percentage, I will take you the rest of the way.

    CA income tax 13.3%
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robert...e-raised-to-168retroactively/?sh=6a3e811ac026

    Federal income tax 35%
    https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/federal-income-tax-brackets

    What is the total % so far?
     
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    Trust me -- he'll claim victory anyway, because that would 'only' be 48.3%.... :oldman:
     
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    So no chance of him having an epiphany?
     
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    So that percentage have I shown?
     

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