Obama Birth Certificate: the new poll 3/24/2013

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do you believe mr. obama has been entirely truthful and transparent about his past ?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. SFJEFF

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    I have noticed that racists get really, really defensive when their overt racism is called out.

    Why is that?

    Once again- the only President you have ever asked, questioned or demanded your laundry list of slimy speculation is the only one not a whiter shade of pale. You can't defend that so you attack me personally instead.

    I haven't been defending President Obama the man, or his politics- because you haven't been talking about those- you have just been promoting the usual Birther lies.

    I haven't seen any logical Birthers, just those who are promoting bizarre theories intended to destroy the U.S. Constitution.


    Sorry Snookie, I have been gainfully employed before you got out of your nappies, thats why I deal with grownups, instead of the big boys you hang out with.

    Is there anything much more pathetic than Birthers?

    Certainly not all of them are racists- but they welcome racists as long as they are Birthers.

    Some Birthers are just vile, hateful weasels whose only goal is to cast doubt and racial aspersions on Barack Obama- they don't really care where he was born- the point is to promote disharmony in the U.S. Others are gullible followers, who will believe any far fetched tale, just so long as the conclusion is that this one particular President can't possibly be President.

    Finally- I will point out that every one of Snookie's Big Birther lies has been addressed and shown for what they are- a collection of lies and selective foot stomping demands which not coincidentally were only ever demanded from the black President....not a single white one.
     
  2. scott e.

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    if that happens here you'll point it all out, right j. ? unless I've missed a specific example along the way.
     
  3. Mayor Snorkum

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    Yeah, you people do that a lot.

    Since the Mayor married a half-thai woman with a black daughter, please, do inform the Mayor about his racism.
     
  4. SFJEFF

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    I have noticed that racists get really, really defensive when their overt racism is called out.

    I have also pointed out that Birthers are more than willing to lie to promote Birtherism.


    Is there anything much more pathetic than Birthers?

    Certainly not all of them are racists- but they welcome racists as long as they are Birthers.

    Some Birthers are just vile, hateful weasels whose only goal is to cast doubt and racial aspersions on Barack Obama- they don't really care where he was born- the point is to promote disharmony in the U.S. Others are gullible followers, who will believe any far fetched tale, just so long as the conclusion is that this one particular President can't possibly be President.

    Finally- I will point out that every one of Snookie's Big Birther lies has been addressed and shown for what they are- a collection of lies and selective foot stomping demands which not coincidentally were only ever demanded from the black President....not a single white one.
     
  5. scott e.

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    BAMM !!............. sfjeff


    Is there anything much more pathetic than Birthers?
    ...................if there wasn't before.... there is now... :roflol:

    in your mind anyway... how about political hypocrisy ??






    better call for help j. you are drowning here.... btw where are frank and rahlwong anyway.. toro, rc, bueller ?? anyone ?? bb.jpg


    Some Birthers are just vile, hateful weasels whose only goal is to cast doubt and racial aspersions on Barack Obama... so too are some ex democrats
    maybe some former Illinois governors... lol

    you better start agreeing with everything black conservatives say from now on and vote for them... you wouldn't want to be called a racist for the wong reasons...
     
  6. SFJEFF

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    The difference between you and I, Scott- one of many, but the one most important for this issue is this:

    I have consistantly held all President's to the same standards when it comes to proving their eligibility, or any other laundry list of Birther 'demands'.

    You have only ever asked, demanded, or cared, about any of this for one President.

    The only non-white President.

    You had your chance to push just as hard for this information when Romney was running- but

    NO BIRTHER EVER ASKED ROMNEY FOR THE INFORMATION THAT THEY DEMAND THAT EVERY PRESIDENT IS OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE.

    Not all Birthers are racists- but all Birthers are only and have only ever been concerned about the non-white President.
     
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    I've said many times we should vet them equally, and will continue to do so. just because you draw loose conclusions to birther racism, doesn't mean they're true.

    your affecting current convenience is no argument at all. nice try (?), though i'm sure you can do better, at least you used to try. this race baiting is new in the couple of years I've known you, same for arduini, that sounds desperate to me. I have praised you both in the past for not being that way, it's up to you. don't take any of this too seriously, time will tell.
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    So show me your threads that you started regarding Romney's birth certificate?

    That shouldn't be hard, right after all "I've said many times we should vet them equally"

    Show us all of the threads where you demanded Romney show us his original birth certificate.

    Go for it.
     
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    Now that Barack Obama’s administration is embroiled in serious scandals regarding the IRS’s abuse of power and the White House’s and State Department’s failures and lies before, during, and after the Benghazi terrorist attack, now seems like a good time to revisit the top ten mysteries surrounding Obama’s life before Chicago politics?

    1. Where is Obama’s real birth certificate? Obama’s supporters will tell everyone who will listen that Barack Obama produced his real birth certificate in 2011. A single reporter – Savannah Guthrie of NBC news — was allowed to see the “real” document, and then it was scanned as a PDF file and loaded into the internet for everyone to see. As far as the Obama crowd is concerned, that’s the end of the story.

    The only problem for Obama is that numerous electronic document experts have shown, using steps that anyone can repeat with if they have the proper software, that the document the White House so proudly uploaded is not simply a scanned version of an original paper document. Instead, it’s what’s called a “layered” document. A document that’s scanned will have only one layer, which is the image itself. A “layered,” electronically manipulated document will show one electronic addition after another. The White House’s birth certificate PDF has nine layers. This was an assembled electronic document, not a scanned paper document.

    The fact that Obama produced an electronic document that did not start life as a paper printed up in the Hawaii records department does not prove that Obama is foreign born. The problem for him is that it also doesn’t prove that he was Hawaiian born. All it indicates is that Obama is hiding something. He could be hiding the fact that he was illegitimate, but that’s not much of a stigma today. He also could be hiding the fact that he was adopted, which would explain the missing original birth certificate, or that Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was not his real father.

    Both of those are facts worth hiding, because Obama sprang to national prominence by purportedly writing a book, Dreams From My Father which ties his identity very closely to Obama, Sr. If Obama, Sr. is not Obama, Jr.’s father, and Obama, Jr. has always known this fact, it puts the lie to the image he sold to the American public as the son of a complex and brilliant immigrant Kenyan.

    more:
    http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/...ificate-identity-and-past-the-media-wont-ask/
     
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    Okay lets rumble

    What you claimed:

    scott e: i have no double standard for vetting, i have repeatedly defied you to present proof if you have it, so far you have not been able to do so..

    A selection of threads started by you at PF:

    Poll: Obama Birth Certificate: the new poll 3/24/2013

    obama birth certificate. the media is catching on (dated 8/12/11)

    obama birth certificate…. birfer: the obots know not what they do (2/20/13)

    obama birth certificate scandal: statement of facts (5/2/13)

    obama birth certificate…. the smiling face of smileygate…(9/21/12)

    Poll: obama birth certificate media malpractice scandal and more to come….. (9/12/12)

    scott e.’s new birther thread (8/10/11)- this one has the ironic comment by you

    i don’t automatically accept anyone’s credentials……, you shouldn’t either. what’s the obsession with perry ? i just looked at wikepedia. under the circumstances, all future candidates should have all records scrutinised, it’s a new era. the public should demand it.

    ….so yes what ever obama has to do to prove eligibility, goes equally for the others. no exceptions


    So dozen’s of threads where you demand Obama provide his original birth certificate….and the threads where you demanded that Romney provide his birth certificate?

    ZERO.

    Not one.

    That is the proof of your double standard for vetting.

    There is only one President- only one candidate- that you have ever demanded any proof of place of birth.
     
  11. Mayor Snorkum

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    Yes, that's what we've observed about you DemocRATS.

    Unlikely, since the lie comes from the Photoshopped forgeries King Obama, Fascist and Traitor , has posted twice on the internet. There's no need for people claiming King Obama lied about that to make up lies, since King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, has already done all the work.

    Now, you were asked about King Obama's college records, and you failed to explain why a fascist promising the Stupids the most "open" presidency in history...would spend millions of dollars sealing his personal records away from public scrutiny.

    Now, we don't care what you think about that, since a filled vessel has no thoughts of it's own, so we already know what you've been programmed to say, but, to make you comfortable with today's hard-hitting investigative journalism, like you see on MSNBC, how do you FEEL about the fact that your King and Messiah, Herr Obama, Fascist and Traitor, lies his ass off every day?
     
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    At this point in time, what difference does that make? Anyone claim that Romney was an illegal alien like Obama is?

    King Obama's real birth certificate, from Kenya, is the Blue Dress you people don't want to discuss.

    Why is that, since, if what you said was true, the him releasing his real birth certificate would shut everyone up? Why would your King and Messiah spend millions of dollars HIDING, if he's as wonderful as you claim?

    The number of threads someone doesn't start on what is clearly a completely irrelevant topic does not alter the fact, not one little bit, that your King and Messiah is a fraud.
     
  13. SFJEFF

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    No, not surprisingly Conservatives never lied about any white man being born outside America.

    Meanwhile of course- the only President that you- or any Conservatives have ever demanded proof that they were born in the U.S. is of course the only non-white President.

    Coincidence?

    Birthers lie like other people exhale.

    Who are you speaking of again? Jesus? Why would Jesus spend any money hiding anything and its pretty slimey of you to slander Jesus.

    I mean we al know that Barack Obama hasn't spent a dime hiding anything

    I don't have a king or a messiah. Are you speaking of Jesus or someone else?

    Birthers are such losers.

    LOL
     
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    I will just point out that both Republican and Democrat Governors of Hawaii, both Democrat and Republican Directors of Health of Hawaii- and the civil servant Registrar of Records, Dr. Alvin Onaka have all confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Birthers claim everyone is lying.

    Birthers ae idiots.
     
  15. Mayor Snorkum

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    No. Just King Obama, Fascist and Traitor, and everyone that supports Him and HIs fascist agenda. The big question is "why do so many stupid people exist who are willing to help traitors fit them with slave collars."

    The answer is that socialists have an inner religious need to be stupid.

    Yeah, that's why you can't answer the question of why your King and Messiah has expended so much time and effort hiding his past and lying about his past.

    Who's the real idiot here, the people who see a liar lying, of the people who see the liar lying, know the liar is lying, and pretends the liar isn't lying?

    So.

    What were your thoughts on King Obama's choice to have an impeached former president, a convicted perjurer, a sexual predator, a philanderer, and a known rapist, re-nominate your King and Messiah for his second term of destroying the United States?

    Scratch that. The Mayor doesn't like to ask anyone to do the impossible.

    What were your feelings about King Obama's choice to have an impeached former president, a convicted perjurer, a sexual predator, a philanderer, and a known rapist, re-nominate your King and Messiah for his second term of destroying the United States?

    Were you excited?

    Did you believe the Blue Dress was a liar, too?

    And for how many years have you been looking over your shoulder in terror that the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy might be following you?

    To put you at ease, let the record show that the VRWC doesn't care about you. We only care about America.
     
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    There was NO Kenya in 1961.......
     
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    Apparently that includes:
    Republican Governor Linda Lagle- Hawaiian campaign chairman for John McCain.
    Republican Hawaiian Director of Health Dr. Fukino- appointed by Gov. Lagle.
    Democratic Governor Abercrombie
    Democratic Hawaiian Director of Health
    and non-political 30 year civil servant Registrar of Records Alvin Onaka.

    All of them have confirmed that the records on file show that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Like I said- you think everyone who doesn't agree with the whacky Birther claims is a liar.

    And of course Birthers are willing to lie to push that claim.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Thats not a question- thats just another Birther lie.
     
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    Oh its plain in every single Birther thread who the 'real idiot' is.

    It is always the idiot lying about Barack Obama.
     
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    What are my thoughts about your claim?

    I think you may have some very sad mental condition that results in a compulsion to lie.
     
  20. scott e.

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    the poll at the top of the page is 40 % of the people have doubts, with Benghazi 60% want to see further investigation.

    that leaves AP the IRS and the birther scandal, as change we can believe in, transparency, and the proverbial "hope and change" as silly pathetic broken token empty immature clichés scattered along the trail of 0bama and the Chicago thug way
     
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    I think he has.
     

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