Obama Confused About Taxes...

Discussion in 'Budget & Taxes' started by onalandline, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. Political Ed

    Political Ed New Member

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    Michal Moore a fat ass, I'm making typos, now I'm a ranting liberal. Anything but addressing data.


    No it's not, we don't condemn homosexuals to hell as your party of family values does, then taps under an airport crapper looking for ****. The hypocrisy thing. If the Dems were critical of Chirstian morality offenders then yes, but since they realize people who worry about where others legally stick their **** are a joke, then that does give them license to act accordingly.

    Most likely? And there were black Republicans who switched parties strictly due to Obama's be milado? I know who's racist.

    Altho he acted like Republican trash on 2 fronts:

    - continued tax cuts

    - kept the wars going

    These disappoint me, but like others, what would the Repugnicans do? They would have cut taxes even more, so I'll take my wishy-washy president over a full-on mess of an official Republican. This brings me to another point, why aren't you patting Obama on teh back for his furthering of your heroes tax cuts being extended? You guys look full of it for not at least giving him credit for that Republican move.
     
  2. Political Ed

    Political Ed New Member

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    That's presemptious of you, Obama could win by an even larger margin, esp if Romney is the best you can do.


    Call to action? Oh God, spare me. Talk about grandiose. 08 was lost because the youth were sick of some old crusty white dude diverting all the wealth to the rich. And altho Obama hasn't been what I've wanted, some old crusty Mormon is gonna get closer? Even tho Obama hasn't been the best, he's still the best we have.

    To you maybe, I'm going to have my wrist surgery thx to Obamacare and the preexisting plan. And now the Jobs Bill, 2/3 of the people are for it, congress killed it; guess how that will work for 2012?

    As for blaming GWB, are you unaware that he left the worst economy since the GD? That's not just a catchphrase.

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

    http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI+Interactive#chart1:symbol=^dji;range=5y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
     
  3. Political Ed

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    Your understanding of how the rich deal with taxes is so primordial, I'm almost embarrassed for you. List real carefully:

    - Taxes are raised, the uber rich go to their accountants and ask what they need to do. Accountants tell them to spend X amount to minimize their tax burden. They spend by hiring or buying, which creates their vendors to hire, unmep decreases, welfare decreases drawing less on the system, tax revs increase. Wages increase due to greater demand for labor.

    - Taxes lowered, the rich ask their accounts who move teh bar and perhaps tell them to just pay the 25%ish tax and invest the rest in the staock market or bank it. They do this, goods are not purchased, people not hired, unemployment rises and wages lower; AKA a Repugnican utopia.
     
  4. Political Ed

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    http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/who-caused-the-economic-crisis/


    Gee, fact check calls it deregulation, but I guess you're smarter than them. :fart:
     
  5. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    LIAR!



    And you just used it again.

    Prove that statement! Provide some evidence, some reasoning.
    You can't can you?

    It just goes to show that you have absolutely no idea what you are going on about.
    I wonder if you even have the capability to form a semi-competent argument.
    Do you even know what an argument is?
    Do you know what evidence is?

    -Meta
     
  6. Not Amused

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    What would he win on? How well he turned around the worst economy? How he got us out of the war, closed Gitmo, Obamacare, his handling of the middle east, immigration reform, taxing the rich (ain't gonna happen - too many Democrats with their hand out)?

    Is that why the new coverage shows the huge crowds cheering Obama on his class warfare?

    Some disagree with you, the question is do enough? Obama has lost the support of a lot of Democrats.

    Those that expect government to care for them will vote Democratic - is that news?

    And Obama and the Democrats with total control saw the car in the ditch, and emptied a dozen truck loads of dirt on it.

    Lets see if the economy is worse in 2012 - so far it is on track to be.

    Maybe the winning catch phrase will be "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?"
     
  7. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    you are getting very boring.
     
  9. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    And you are a bald face liar.
    So I guess we're even.
     
  10. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is nothing like the Boston Tea Party. Those folks were being taxed unfairly by a government that they determined were not representing them.

    The Occupy Wall Street crowd are misplacing their anger at Wall Street that has almost nothing to do with them, instead of the federal government.

    Once again, not apples to apples.

    The video shows that "tax the wealthy" is not a real option.

    Blah, blah, blah.

    Where do the taxes end, especially when they are supposed to pay for certain benefits, yet get thrown into the general funds? More taxes, usually means more spending.

    You are sure ranting on and on. You lost me after a couple of BS paragraphs.

    The fact remains that tax increases are always followed by more spending increases. Most taxes get lumped into the general funds, and never reach the program they were intended for.

    I repeat, spending cuts is the only answer.
     
  11. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blah, blah, blah. More nonsense.

    He was pained to continue the Bush tax cuts, believe me.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, your are saying that the rich will spend and hire only if taxes are raised, with no other factors playing into the equation? Is that why they will eventually lay all those employees off, and stop spending, when taxes are lowered? Are these extra employees needed for business? Is this extra spending required for business?

    Perhaps the high tax system that you are encouraging just creates an inefficient business model for the sake of spending money.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    OK, you're right, there was no deregulation. Better ?
     
  15. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    You still need to provide some sort of evidence for that statement,
    and you also have yet to answer my other questions.
     
  16. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    I'm just agreeing with you. There was no deregulation.

    what are your other questions ?
     
  17. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    I do not agree with that statement, and you have not provided evidence supporting it.

    Do you know what capitalism is?
    Why is capitalism not to blame for the current economic circumstances?
    What specific regulations are you talking about when you mention regulations that do nothing but limit competition?

    -Meta
     
  18. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    1. Not just a right wing phenomenon.
    2. Removing restrictions, within a system where immense privilege and economic advantage has been legislated is not "deregulation".
    It is the regulating of profits right into your buddies pockets.
     
  19. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    so there was deregulation now ? You're so confusing.


    refer to post #130. Not Amused explains it nicely
     
  20. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    I am asking you to provide evidence to support your claim that deregulation has never occurred.

    As I have already pointed out,
    Not Amused did not answer those three questions.

    It's bad enough that you have to rely on another poster to make make your points for you.
    What is so difficult about these questions, that you cannot answer them yourself?

    -Meta
     
  21. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    so it occurred now ?


    then you can either not read, or not comprehend.


    no sense repeating what you already read. Unless there's money in it, I don't care if that is satisfactory to you.
     
  22. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    I am still waiting for you to provide evidence to confirm one way or the other.
    Do you have evidence? Or do you just enjoy going around and making things up?


    I believe you may be projecting right here.


    Look, Not Amused did not answer three of the five questions I asked you.
    Two of the questions, it is impossible for him to answer,
    because they are specifically directed at you and your personal beliefs.

    If all you care about is money, then why do you even bother posting here at all?
    If you can get people here to believe all the lies you post,
    does that somehow make you a richer person?

    -Meta
     

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