Obama Hates God

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Blackrook, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Libhater

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    From what I've seen is that liberals engage in class warfare where they want to tax the rich or tax the movers, shakers and job producers of our society. So it seems kind of strange for liberals to advocate the over taxing of these people if indeed some of these people are liberals as you suggest. Why would liberals engage in policy aimed to redistribute the monies of the wealthy if indeed many of these so-called wealthy were liberals, as you suggest? Liberal ideology backed up by liberal policy has been and still remains a very huge detriment to the soundness of our economy.

    Again, I'm proud of my name libhater, but I don't hate anyone--I hate lib-eralism.

    You do know that the rich and the successful pay the bulk of federal taxes in our society. Seeing how its the Conservatives and Republicans that believe in unfettered capitalism, are the entrepreneurs and venture capitalists while liberals tend to settle for a socialistic society, I would say that it is the Repubs/Cons that do indeed pay the bulk of taxes in our society, precisely because you libs made sure your class warfare hurt them in the pocketbook.
     
  2. Johnny-C

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    Stop generalizing so much. Still, I would agree that Liberals are more concerned about the well-being of the 'middle class'; really, there is nothing wrong with that.

    And as a Liberal, I think a STRONG middle class is BEST for this nation to retain.
     
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    Flash...This just in...Obama backed off (or backed down) Could it be that he believes in fairies after all? He decided to not "ask the churches to behave like everyone else". What does this mean? What does this mean?
     
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    ...And does that thought make you feel good? Are Christians really supposed to pass judgement on others?
     
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    Just by the simple fact that we tried it the GOP's way-less taxes on the top1%-more loopholes for the top !% less( or in some cases no regulations) regulation-everything you are advocating here-and what did it get us-corruption-wage disparity-off-shore tax havens-wall-street collapse-17 trillion bucks in global loss virtually overnight in 2007-many worthy programs lost-how many millions in job loss-and because we have a POTUS now that wants to level the playing field and restore the firewalls to get us back up and going again-you call that class-warfare-and socialist behavior---our country was very prosperous with the regulations,with the firewalls (like Smoot/Haley-Glass/Stegal Acts)-with a fair tax base---if it isn't restored-we are really in a world of hurt.
    Or I can use the argument-if all these tax breaks and de-regulations were such a good idea--What happened to all the jobs that were supposed to be created ?-where's that trickle down?
    Where are all
     
  6. Libhater

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    No one is talking about tax breaks or deregulations here. What we're talking about is the over taxing of the rich or successful. Jobs aren't going to be created while you over tax the very people in our industries that produce the goods and hire the employees.
     
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    Passing judgement and stateing facts are two totally different things....this is one of the many things libs still find a complete mystery.

    Unless Obama gets saved, Born again, he will be in hell for eternity!

    Thats a fact!

    BTW our family prays for our nations leaders, including obama to get saved.
     
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    Well, they haven't been over-taxed since 2000. Why haven't they created any jobs or produced any goods? Why is most of their money in off-shore accounts so they don't have to pay taxes on it? Why are they still moving their businesses overseas?

    Seems like 12 years is long enough for us to begin to see some results from the "trickle down" that was supposed to be created by making all the wealthy even wealthier.
     
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    What happens if you're stating what you BELIEVE to be "facts" that are nothing more than lies given to you by the RW talking heads to "repeat 3 times and make it true"? Can we call you a liar or would that be passing judgment? :rolleyes:

    You can't possibly have any way of knowing anything about Obama's religion unless you've had a personal conversation with him about it. I think your prediction that he'll be in hell for eternity is a judgment based on no facts.
     
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    Your comment that the President is going to hell is a fact???? Now I've heard almost everything. :spin::crazy:
     
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    LOL!! Just what I was thinking. :)
     
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    Really? Your amazing! God speaks to you and told you this obviously.

    Guess what reichpublicans, you have NO idea what God looks like or who God will or will not send to heaven or hell. All you can do is guess. Now if guessing give you all a warm and fuzzy then keep it up you religious kooks.
     
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    I belive the Bible in it's entirety, the Bible states that it IS the true and living word of GOD, My faith is based on the Bible and what Christ did on the cross for my and your sins.

    I believe that Christ was the only son of God
    I believe that Christ Lived a perfect life
    I believe that Christ died for all our sins on the Cross
    I believe Christ was buried and God raised him from the dead the third day

    Christ states in the word of God that "ye must be born again to inter into the gates of heaven"

    This is the TRUE base line for Christianity, Born again believers, (Saved)

    Religion dont matter, but your faith does. This is very clear and stated many many times in the new testimate.

    Now with that said,The Bible talks about evidence of a Christian, Called fruits of the Spirit.

    Obama has none of these, bible also encourages this, if you are of God you should be for God in all ways....Abortion, Divorce, Gay marrage, Love of money is entirely against Gods word. Obama supports these ideas...

    Also obama's pastor Mr wright...get this.......DOES NOT teach salvation, or needing to be born again in order to get into heaven...

    So with that said My conclusion based on the same evidence that everyone here has, obama sure dont act or live like a true Christian.

    And According to the Bible if he dies with out accepting Christ as his personal savoiur, He will Go to HELL.
    According to the Bible if he dies with out Christ (Gets Saved) he will See hell.

    There is no other way around it!
     
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    I don't know why you are calling me a "lib", but anyway, how do you know it's a fact? You don't.
     
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    And you know for FACT that the President has not accepted Christ??? Paalleeease............

    Also, your beliefs are not facts they are your beliefs or faith.

    Unnnnnnn-believable nonsense
     
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    I respectfully disagree, but you're close.

    He's an atheist. When he refers to himself as a Christian, you are watching him LIE. He doesn't believe in God.

    He hates religion. He hates the Church and what it stands for.

    You see, he's a Marxist. Marxists always attack religion. Religion gives people faith in something higher than govt and a Marxist views govt as the supreme power. Therefore, they see religion as a threat to govt.

    LOOK at him and SEE what he really is. A Marxist.
     
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    Did not call you personally a lib, it was a general statement, sorry for the confusion.
     
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    You read minds now, do you?
     
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    If you would have read my post completely you would have seen that i stated that IF he was not a christian, and died that way he would see hell..
     
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    No problemo.
     
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    That's right! We need a good Christian president like Newt Gingrich!
     
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    It means he's going to a cooler Hell, I guess.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_Christ

    You are lying about the Church.. Shame on you.

    Trinity United Church of Christ is a predominantly black church with more than 8,500 members, located on the southwest side of Chicago.[1] It is the largest church affiliated with the United Church of Christ, a predominantly white Christian denomination with roots in Congregationalism, which branched from American Puritanism

    As expressed in the United Church of Christ constitution:


    The United Church of Christ acknowledges as its sole Head, Jesus Christ, Son of God and Savior. It acknowledges as kindred in Christ all who share in this confession. It looks to the Word of God in the Scriptures, and to the presence and power of the Holy Spirit, to prosper its creative and redemptive work in the world. It claims as its own the faith of the historic Church expressed in the ancient creeds and reclaimed in the basic insights of the Protestant Reformers. It affirms the responsibility of the Church in each generation to make this faith its own in reality of worship, in honesty of thought and expression, and in purity of heart before God.

    In accordance with the teaching of our Lord and the practice prevailing among evangelical Christians, it recognizes two sacraments: Baptism and the Lord's Supper or Holy Communion
     
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    Good for you.

    Now tell me why we all have to listen to your private thoughts about what you believe. And better still, why anyone else has to believe them.
     
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