Obama: 'I think same sex couples should be able to get married'. Impact on election?

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  1. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope. The laws regarding marriage attempt to address the unfairness which happens when a couple tries to live as one in a system that expects to deal with them as individuals. There are considerable and real concerns which are the reason those 1600+ federal and countless state laws exist.

    A couple supports each other and acts in concert. That allows one to focus more on work, earn more and therefore contribute more to social security and medicare. It's a team effort and we recognize that. So we don't renege on social security or medicare guarantees for the couple when one dies, even if it's the one who's name was on the check stubs. Unless it's a same sex couple.

    Living one life means sharing intimate details, hopes and fears. The threat of possible litigation or prosecution though impairs that cooperation and sharing, because while you can't be required to testify against yourself your other half might. So we extend 5th amendment privilege to both halves of the couple, recognizing that they're one unit and neither half should be required to testify against the whole. Unless it's a same sex couple.

    A married couple produces income and expenses as one unit. It burdens the couple to demand they keep separate accounting of property and expenses so they could file separate tax returns. So we allow them to file as a single entity, recognizing that they share income and expenses. Unless it's a same sex couple.

    A lifetimes worth of property and investment from the couple acting in concert is owned by the couple. Asking one half the couple to pay inheritance tax on half the couples property if one dies is unfair. So we acknowledge that their property is equally owned by each and we do not impose inheritance tax when one half the couple dies. Unless it's a same sex couple.

    The laws of marriage don't exist to reward someone for getting married, they're just trying to make a system built for dealing with individuals accommodate a couple. The accommodations exist because otherwise there would be real and unfair hardships for married couples. It's shameful to deny those existing accommodations to a married couple that happens to be of the same sex -- just 'cause some folks don't want to share a word.​
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    yOU can always incorporate.
     
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    *shrug* Incorporation is complicated, expensive, introduces new accounting requirements and taxes, and doesn't solve these problems. It's kind of like telling a man with a broken leg he can't use crutches but you'll sell him a violin.​
     

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