Obama "Stop ISIS...Get Them Jobs"!

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  1. PGreen

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    Marie Harf, a spokeswoman for the U.S. State Department, said America can’t win against the Islamic State “by killing them” and ought instead to focus on addressing what she claimed was the root problem — their poor economy — and help them get jobs.

    “We’re killing a lot of them, and we’re going to keep killing more of them,” she said during a televised segment on “Hardball” with Chris Matthews. “So are the Egyptians, so are the Jordanians. They’re in this fight with us. But we cannot win this war by killing them. We cannot kill our way out of this war. We need in the medium to longer term to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it’s a lack of opportunity for jobs, whether …”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/marie-harf-state-department-on-islamic-state-cant-/

    You're kidding, right? Is it really at all possible that this administration can get any more ridiculous? I would like to think it was impossible but they just keep one upping themselves everyday.
     
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    lol
    Rush said does this mean Americans without jobs should resort to terorrism to get enough attention from obammy to do something about it?
     
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    I'm not really surprised at this post. It purposefully misrepresents an attempt to address one of the root causes of terrorism with GIVING ISIS JOBS!!! Then it, again purposefully, lies by claiming that President Obama said what the post (falsely) claims. This is a tactic worthy of Limbaugh's flatulent falsehoods. I, for one, would be ashamed at making such a statement. Anyone with pretensions of honesty would be.
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spokespeople for the Administration, are speaking for the President, whether it's Obama, Bush or anyone else. It can be argued, if the President denies what others say, but in this case not only has he not denied them, but added on to them commenting on how economic improvement could eliminate terrorism...the operative word them "inference".


    PGreen; To answer your question...I fear Obama is just getting started!!! As he realizes his time is going to end, that he can't get away with an executive order to stay in office, his actions may go well over this or the many previous actions. Some IMO are already underway, such as allowing refugees from known terrorist areas into the US is just beginning. He has the authority, uncontested, to pardon anyone for virtually any illegal action and I'm expecting the worst....
     
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    Expecting the worst? You expect another Bush?
     
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    Once again, the utter BRILLIANCE of the Obama regime amazes the world. So, here's a follow-on idea that's sure to please our community-organizer "president" and his Kumbaya-singing administration -- let's create a million "shovel-ready" jobs here in the states and reserve them (using yet an additional form of "affirmative action") for ISIS "youths"!

    Like nearly every other kind of government "jobs program" it would be fraught with fraud and incredible waste -- BUT, we'd get these ISIS youths off the Jihad trail and instead have them standing around in the shade this summer, drawing government paychecks! How's THAT for a nice, "inclusive" Socialist/Progressive idea?! :spin:
     
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    That sounds like the semi-retarded hyperbole I've come to expect from conservative talking heads, and you swallowed it whole of course.
     
  8. Jeannette

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    Maybe this is just another Obama lie, to undo the accusations towards Washington of instigating civil wars in nations in order to maintain hegemony? Is the Empire of Chaos now trying to prove it is no such thing, but that it too wants to foster peace and work for everyone... which incidentally existed in places like Syria and Ukraine before our interference? :frustrated:
     
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    The worst; Would be a third Obama term, but I feel even he understands that's not going to happen. Jeb Bush, isn't my favorite, since anything he does would be classified a continuance of his brothers. The person elected should truly be a new face, at least Nationally, and capable of choosing advisors on both sides the political spectrum and that he/she will listen to.
     
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    I know Washington is training 5,000 so called 'moderates' with Turkey... which are really Al Nusra/Al Queda since all Syrians have joined up with Assad. I also know that Turkey has supported ISIS wholehearted for a long time so they could fight the Kurds... so one has to wonder if Harf is trying to soften up the anger people feel towards ISIS by presenting them as poor frustrated out of work boys? Here are some excerpts from an article in:

    http://journal-neo.org/2015/02/21/us-easing-into-war-with-syria-using-isis-boogeyman/

    US “Easing Into” War with Syria Using ISIS Boogeyman

    "...The US is a few “accidental” airstrikes away from total war with Syria. The US is reportedly working with Turkey to provide militants inside of Syria with radios to call in US airstrikes to help in their “fight against ISIS.” Despite the obvious reality that these militants are in fact fighting alongside ISIS and are primarily fighting the Syrian Arab Army, and that such airstrikes are inevitably going to be called in on Syrian, not ISIS targets, the US is nonetheless attempting to assure the world this is not the case..."

    "...As early as June of last year, it was reported that ISIS would be used as a means to incrementally draw in US forces in preparation for a direct military intervention aimed at Damascus itself. Unable to trigger the conflict using the canard of “WMDs,” ISIS has provided a series of increasingly more horrific provocations to help gather backing behind direct US military intervention in Syria..."


    A few facts here: Well trained troops who were definitely not terrorists, ambushed Syrian soldiers this week. They came from the Turkish border which means they were Turkish troops.

    Also why this sudden friendship with Turkey, a nation which recently turned its back on Washington?

    1 - Is it because Turkey is a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the biggest instigator of friction inside the Egyptian government...which just happens to have renewed its friendship with Russia.?

    2 - Could it also be to undo Turkey's recent friendship with Russia and its development of Turk Stream since it would bring Russian gas into Europe. ..Maybe Washington even wants to restart Nabucco so that gas can come in from Azerbajian and cut off Russia? Anyway these are my suspicions.
     
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    below is an Australian who went and joined the Jihadis. Could he not find a job in Oz-land? I suggest opening your eyes

    [video=youtube;8DOrsVAmuXU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOrsVAmuXU[/video]
     
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    sometimes there is truth in humor. If leftists can say that about John Stewart then why not this clip?

    [video=youtube;dQnj2_f_ub4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnj2_f_ub4[/video]
     
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    Obama vs Reagan "How to handle a terrorist".

    [video=youtube;FfKGUF9uDxU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfKGUF9uDxU[/video]
     
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    And when Qadaffi stopped being a threat, and began working with the US we killed him, and put the Libyan jihadist terrorists in charge.

    We are now supporting Turkey who has always been allied with ISIS to fight the Kurds. We want to use them to fight Assad and the Syrian people, so our war against ISIS is only a pretense. The only Western nation fighting ISIS is Russia. They supplied Baghdad with jets the first week.

    As for Washington, they are now training so called moderates in Turkey, but there are no moderate Syrians because they all back Assad. Basically they are Al Nusra/Al Queda terrorists. This is quite well known.

    All of this is against Russia. It is American geo politics and the prize is the control of all of the Eastern Mediterranean and the oil and gas it contains as well as the route. Turkey had come to an agreement with Russia to bypass Ukraine and ship gas through Turkey, but it seems that was not to Washington's liking, so they gave Turkey a better deal...probably offered a chunk of Syria once they get rid of Assad.

    Washington is also including Turkish troops into the force it is building up to combat the so called (non existent) Russian aggression. This of course has raised Russia's ire, since there are many Tatars in Crimea, Russia and Ukraine that can become subversives. In Washington's usual fashion, it is putting a wedge in their recent alliance, something Washington is very proficient at. Look at the wedge they put between Russia and the EU?

    All this is because Washington fears only one nation and that is Russia. Everything Washington does has to be seen in that context. Obama has used every provocation to get Russia to invade Ukraine and entangle it in a war, but Putin didn't fall for it, so his only other choice is to get Russia involved in a major war with Nato troops and with a nation that is one of the most heavily armed in the world: Turkey.

    Anyway we will have to wait and see. But if there is a break out of WWIII, it will start with those two adversaries.
     
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    Jihadists may think the war is like a game. But it is not.
     
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    The ISIS monsters are far more insane than to think that they're playing a game. They deliberately want to incite a great "apocalypse", so that the various follow-on events in their delusional crack-pot "religion" can materialize. Obama and the rest of the hyperlib morons try to equate violence in other religions of a thousand years ago with the murderous insanity of Islam TODAY, and it's total bull (*)(*)(*)(*)! TODAY, in 2015, Islam is a dangerous mental disease that needs to be removed from human experience. In TODAY'S world, any organization, whether a "religion", association, glee-club, etc., that practices the teachings of the Quran against "infidels" needs to be eradicated, root and branch!

    If you have any doubts about what the Quran teaches, please take 30 minutes and read this: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
     
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    For those who believed that tripe, try this experiment:

    Ants are hungry. You've found a few in your house. The mean spirited right wingers would kill these benevolent creatures. All they want is food, so why not feed them. Go find the ant hills. Pour some sugar on them and that will fix the problem, right?
    This is socialist logic, summed up.
     
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    An american politician realized that it's not by killing 'em all that you will restore peace but by helping creating an economy and a political stabilit for them... sounds unreal.
     
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    This is indicative of just how naïve our administration is. How many jihadists do we hear screaming "I want a job" as they cut off a head or blow themselves up?
     
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    Marie Harf...[said]..."We cannot kill our way out of this war."

    This ought to be chiseled into a marble block in Washington. It memorializes the US experience these last fourteen years in the Middle East. You folks can bomb, drone, torture, and snipe all you want...these things are Essential Nutrients for the opposition. Quite a dilemma.
     
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    Doubt it.

    We will see our planet soon resort back to a world where the Geneva convention means nothing.

    The world will get more and more angry, possibly after a large scale attack.

    Al-Raqqa will then be carpet bombed. Something we should start now
     
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    Mexicans are gonna be pissed for hussein giving their jobs away!
     
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    You're almost certainly prescient about this; bombs are coming; it's in the US DNA. All I'm suggesting is it won't make any difference. Let's observe for a decade and see if bombing/droning/torturing/sniping has a lessening affect.
     
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    do I misunderstood what he's saying? He is a president of the United States...such foolish mind-set is not acceptable. it's not acceptable as a leader of any country.

    they don't believe that the rise of ISIS is just base on their hatred towards western civilization in stead of their poor economy. this is just a plain truth and He does not realize it.

    they tear down the ancient treasures, they burn people to death, they cut the people's heads off, not because they are unemployed! because they hate us, they hate all the people who don't kneel down to them, they hate all the things they wanna hate.

    they capture innocents to black mail money not because they wanna get rich, but to gain more power to kill more!

    Oh please Mr. Obama you have to be smarter to understand what is ISIS, and do all the best to tackle it, or you are risking the life of innocent people.
     
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    It is a huge part of the problem. Why do you think all those revolutions happened? Every country it was the same, huge masses of poor/unemployed youths going to the streets demanding change.
     

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