Obama vs the world, even himself.

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  1. Joe Six-pack

    Joe Six-pack Banned

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    The President. President Obama of today is a not the same man as Candidate or as a Senator.

    As a candidate, Obama campaigned against the policies he now endorses (Bush/Cheney policies). During his first year, President Obama had a (D) majority Congress and could have made a lot of changes that he didn't. Instead he focused on a medical policy that he did not campaign on, which the courts are now saying violates the US Constitution.

    Senator Obama voted against raising the debt-ceiling in 2006 (Link). That young, idealistic Senator would not recognize the man he has become today--when Obama campaigned on "change" for Washington, what he meant was he would change his policy views to match the status quo in D.C..

    Now Obama is losing his base (Link), has already lost independents and a conservative wouldn't be caught dead voting for him. The enthusiastic supporters of his campaign have been let down by a failed presidency. Going into the 2012 election, Mr Obama is going up against the world, including even himself.

    That man is his own worst enemy.
     
  2. Joe Six-pack

    Joe Six-pack Banned

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    Obama vs Obama vs Everyone else. Who's taking bets on who loses?
     
  3. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't think of a time where he's convinced me he's telling the truth. Like a used car salesman.
     
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    This might be worth responding to if it was not so loaded down with one-sided half-truths.
     
  5. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    He wanted to please all, but had no plan,just words. It's like half of himself said;;

    ''WE WILL DO THIS!!, WE WILL DO THAT!!,,YES WE CAN!!!!''

    And his other half said;;;

    ''How the hell we gonna do that?''.........''I have no frigin idea..''
     
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    Aw, c'mon, kishmo. Go for it.
     
  7. Subdermal

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    ...and yet, you did.

    But without a single whiff of substance. :rolleyes:
     
  8. James Cessna

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    You are very correct, flounder!

    This part was very good.

    "Now Obama is losing his base, has already lost independents and a conservative wouldn't be caught dead voting for him. The enthusiastic supporters of his campaign have been let down by a failed presidency. Going into the 2012 election, Mr Obama is going up against the world, including even himself. "

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    Well I agree with you except for the bit about healthcare, he really wanted that healthcare thing. But yea, he's lost a lot of his support base, no one really likes Obama anymore, the only question is do people like the republican who makes it more?
     
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    On August 12 the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals delivered what the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel termed “a stinging blow to President Barack Obama’s signature achievement,” declaring the ObamaCare individual mandate unconstitutional.

    A three-judge panel of the court declared that “Congress exceeded its enumerated commerce power” when it “mandated that individuals enter into contracts with private insurance companies for the purchase of an expensive product from the time they are born until the time they die.”

    They added: "Few powers, if any, could be more attractive to Congress than compelling the purchase of certain products. Yet even if we focus on the modern era, when congressional power under the Commerce Clause has been at its height, Congress still has not asserted this authority. Even in the face of a Great Depression, a World War, a Cold War, recessions, oil shocks, inflation, and unemployment, Congress never sought to require the purchase of wheat or war bonds, force a higher savings rate or greater consumption of American goods, or require every American to purchase a more fuel efficient vehicle."
     
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    I think one of Obama's biggest problems is that he had not earned the respect of his peers or had the experience.

    Now I am certainly NOT saying he wasn't qualified or smart. What I mean is that serving as a junior senator had not served long enough to to receive (earn) respect from his fellow Democrats. The senior Democrats were all Hilary supporters and did NOT support Obama at all. In fact the initial battle was getting a little ugly (as they all do). Reid, Dodd, Pelosi, Frank, etc were all Hillary supporters, NOT Obama supporters. When he beat Hillary they all jumped on to his boat - with NO CHOICE.

    I do think their is some animosity among the Democrats to have such a Junior Senator now their boss. I think the entitlement attitude - he didn't put his time in and it wasn't his turn yet - was prevalent in the base.

    Obama was able to rally not the traditional Democrat base, but the new young internet savvy group.


    No doubt, like all candidates, he made promises - the problem wasn't that he wouldn't keep them - the problem was he couldn't.

    I posted something along those lines a while back - see here:
    Obama the Republican!
     
  12. James Cessna

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    You are very correct, Prohobo.

    Especially when you say, "The senior Democrats were all Hilary supporters and did NOT support Obama at all. In fact the initial battle was getting a little ugly (as they all do). Reid, Dodd, Pelosi, Frank, etc were all Hillary supporters; NOT Obama supporters. When he beat Hillary they all jumped on to his boat - with NO CHOICE."

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    "Barack Obama! ... I just heard your poll numbers are way, way down! Come, let Mamma give you a great big hug!"
     
  13. Joe Six-pack

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    I provided link which provide context for the major points. What do you disagree with?
    ObamaCare isn't what he campaigned on. Admittedly, what he did campaign on was sort of vague.
     
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    You mean with all of the face-time and tv specials and support from the MSM, people still didn't know what "hope and change" he was actually bringing?

    I do remember him mentioning that we need a civilian army as large and powerful as our military. I did not cheer.
    :omg:
     
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    Translation: Criticism of your hero has caused you to create an empty metapost that doesn't address a single thing in the OP.

    @Joe Six-Pack: "As a candidate, Obama campaigned against the policies he now endorses". This exactly. Candidate Obama and President Obama are two completely different people. Even liberals with a sense of principle have recognized this fact. The only ones left are the hopelessly gullible. They remind me of teenie boppers screaming over Justin Bieber.
     
  16. Joe Six-pack

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    That is exactly why Obama is losing his base. His former supporters are realizing Obama is just like the last guy.
     

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