Obama's Birth Certificates are Fake

The second link (Two new videos explode the Cold Case Posse forgery myths) is not a certified
document examiner and is also a liar and a phony because the second video he claims to be
manipulating a scan he made from a Xerox copier and it made the same exact layers as the
WhiteHouse.gov copy which is absolutely impossible.

 

The third link (the video at USA Today) in your link also does not have a certified document examiner
and does not verify that the Obama birth certificate is valid.

I'm not sure who the 6 document experts are, they list 3 but do not show
any proof that they have examined or verified anything.

 

6 more document experts than you have presented.

But you are a Birther- you live in denial, and consume lies, speculation and innuendo.

Let me know if you ever post any facts.

 

I've check the links on your links and have not found one CDE who says it's a valid birth certificate.

 

From the link
Here is what WorldNet Daily writer Aaron Klein said about 3 of them:

I decided to go to actual, to some of the nation’s foremost forensic graphic analysts, and I don’t mind naming their names:
Jim Pex at International Forensic Experts, also
John Berryhill the President and COO of Berryhill Computer Forensics,
I[v]an Zatkovich at eComputer Consultants,
all with years of expert in criminal and civil testimony. They have consulted for graphics forensic expertise for such companies as Citicorp, McGraw Hill, other major publishing firms, online Amazon.com, others. So, they’re incredibly qualified.

So who are your 'experts' with more qualifications than these three gentlemen? I am up for a comparison of experience and credentials.

Remember- President Barack Obama has been elected twice- the State of Hawaii has repeatedly verified not only that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, but that his birth certificates are authentic and legal. The only ones who believe what you believe are isolated nutjobs- and devote readers of WND.

You are the one making the far fetched claims- the burden of proof to support your claims is on you- but like all Birthers- you will just make unsubstantiated claims and will never back them up.

 

LOL- of course not- they are not experts on Birth Certificates- they are experts on computer forensics- who are refuting the claims of Birther faux experts.

The experts on Birth Certificates are Directors of Health of Hawaii and the Registrar of Records of Hawaii- who have certified both that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and certified the Birth Ceritificates.

 

From the link from Dr. Neal Krawetz

Preface
Before I begin, I need to point out two critical items for this evaluation. First, digital document analysis can detect manipulation, but it cannot determine whether the original subject is authentic. The authenticity can only be determined by the State of Hawaii, and they already said that it is authentic.

What are the credentials of Dr. Neal Kravitz?

About Dr. Neal Krawetz
Neal Krawetz earned his Ph.D. in Computer Science from Texas A&M University and Bachelors degree in Computer and Information Science from the University of California, Santa Cruz. In 2002, he founded Hacker Factor Solutions (www.hackerfactor.com) where he specializes in non-classical computer forensics, online profiling, and computer security. His research into anti-anonymity technologies combines fields as vast as ergonomics and child development to artificial intelligence and theoretical biophysics. He is the author of three books and numerous articles, and is a popular speaker at local and national conferences. His work experience spans small startup companies, academic and university environments, and large Fortune-100 corporations.

Feel free dispute Dr. Kravitz computer forensics expertise.

Or just do the usual Birther thing- lie, speculate and make innuendo.

 

And here again- Dr. Kravitz makes his point succinctly

In my own analysis, I focus on the forgery claims. I can tell if a document has been tampered, and neither the 2008 nor the 2011 has been edited as the conspirators claim. However, as I have repeatedly stated, I have no means to authenticate the subject matter represented in the online documents. For authentication, I -- and everyone else -- must rely on someone who has the means to authenticate it, and that is the State of Hawaii. As already noted, Hawaii publicly announced that they authenticated that a real document exists in 2008. There are even statements that the document released in 2008 looks like the one that the state has on file. (See the various citations at http://mediamatters.org/research/200808150001 and http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/.) QED.

 

I Googled 3 of the experts you named and WND claims they are experts who have said that the
birth certificate is a forgery.

http://www.wnd.com/2011/05/293421/

 

Here's one ringing endorsement about the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate:

You don't have your facts straight and haven't even researched the names you are putting out as
experts, let alone tried to find out what they have said.

 

Actually they are not registered CDE's which means Certified Document Examiners, nor are they unbiased
3rd party persons. Nobody has ever verified that Obama's birth certificate is real. Doesn't that bother you
that you can't find one CDE in the country willing to put his reputation on the line?

 

Dr. Neal Kravitz is not a CDE either, nor did he verify that the birth certificate is authentic. He only states
that the state of Hawaii says that it is authentic. Actually, in truth, nobody from the state of Hawaii has ever
said that the image posted on the WhiteHouse.gov website is a valid copy of a valid birth certificate provided
by the state of Hawaii.

 

As you know- three experts on Hawaiian Birth Controls have certified that Barack Obama's BC is real- Dr. Fukino, Director Lingle and Registrar of Records Alvin Onaka

They are the ones who count.

 

'valid copy'- no copy on the internet is a 'valid copy'- that would imply legal status- what the State of Hawaii has said repeatedly is that
a) Barack Obama was born in Hawaii
b) That they have original BC on file
c) That they provided a certified copy of the original to Barack Obama and
d) That a copy of that certified copy was posted online by the White House

On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.

Let me know when you ever find any actual experts who agree with your rantings.

Meanwhile- the real experts have spoken- and Birthers are left stomping their feet and wandering around in circles.

 

They don't count because they are not CDE's nor are they unbiased.

 

That is what I have been saying. There is no validated copy of Obama's birth certificate.

No document examiner has ever been given access to the actual document.

The one posted on the internet by Obama has been determined to be a fraud by many experts.

 

Actually they are legally the only experts that count.

They are experts legally authorized to determine the authenticity and validity of Hawaiian Birth Certificates.

No 'Certified Document Examiner' has any such authorization.

But feel free to provide the testimony of any "Certified Document Examiner" who has examined the original on file in Hawaii and has said that it is not accurate.

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Feel free to provide any evidence to support that claim.

Meanwhile the State of Hawaii has officially and unambiguously stated that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and that he has posted online a copy of his official certified birth certificate.

 

I don't know why you think they are the only experts that count. The only ones that count in
my mind are unbiased CDE's. No CDE has ever seen the birth certificates. The Hawaiian
officials are not unbiased.

I have posted information supporting my claim that Obama's birth certificates are fake.

The state of Hawaii has never said that the one posted on the website is authentic.

 

They are the only experts that count because they are the only experts entitled by law to determine the authenticity of Hawaiian Birth Certificates. And they have said repeatedly since 2008 that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and that his original BC is on file.

By the way- no CDE has seen 99.9999% of all birth certificates. There are 24 in the United States- and they are not entrusted with birth certificates or determining the authenticity of birth certificates.

And why on earth would you think that any individual CDE must not be biased- while deciding that the Hawaiian officials are biased?

Oh thats right- because you are a Birther.........

 

By your own admission, not CDE has ever seen Obama's birth certificate.

The ones who have seen what was produced have determined it to be a fraud.

That is all that we need to know.

 

No CDE has ever seen Obama's birth certificate- no CDE's have seen any President's Birth Certificate.

The only persons who have claimed that Obama's BC is a fraud are birthers like you.

Anyway- like all Birthers- you are big on making claims- and void of backing them up.

The only actual experts on Hawaiian BC have confirmed its authenticity.

If you have any actual CDE who has said otherwise- feel free to provide his or her statement- should be easy- since there are only 24 in the entire United States.

 

No, we're just going to point out how you started out with race-baiting, to nobody's great surprise. After all, if you were color-blind, you'd be a liberal.

You need to think like a liberal, and not try to instantly make every single thing entirely about race, even on a thread like this that has nothing to do with race.

Remember, those with the facts on their side don't have to race-bait. You do.

 

I would think that there are many more CDE's than that, but if you have information showing there are only 24...

The one I have posted several times is Reed Hayes.

I don't know why you keep insisting the Hawaiian officials are any kind of experts. They are typical bureaucrats.

 

In actuality I am green color blind.

I see that you failed to respond to the part challenging to provide "expert testimony from a certified document examiner that the birth certificates are real."

I can include you in the pile of respondents who have likewise failed to do so.

 

What is Reed's expertise/certification in examining digital documents?