Obama's Birth Certificates are Fake

Lol at this thread.

 

Ah Reed Hayes- I would love to see his report- or even his statement- you have a statement from Reed Hayes saying that he found Barack Obama's BC to be a fraud?

I keep up on all things Birther and I have yet to see any statement or report from Reed Hayes or any other CDE.

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Because unlike CDE's the Hawaiian officials are the only legally recognized experts on Hawaiian Birth certificates. That is their job.

 

Birthers with their silly 'challenges'.

President Obama has been elected twice, confirmed by Congress twice, and is finishing his final term as President.

Whether you challenge people to prove that Obama is a Martian or that he graduated from traffic school- it is all irrelevant.

President Barack Obama's eligibility has been confirmed to everyone that counts.

 

Use Google.

Now we are back to parsing words?

CDE's are experts on every kind of documents, legal or otherwise. Even Hawaiian birth certificates.

 

And your post is yet another fail to be included in the pile of others who have tried and failed.

You seem to miss the point altogether, I am not nor have I ever questioned his eligibility, I question why he released 2 fraudulent birth certificates.

 

Google has no record of Reed Hayes ever saying that any birth certificate is a fraud. I can't find it- and clearly you can't find it. So there is no evidence that Reed Hayes has ever said what you say he has said. Which is par for the course for Birthers- lies, speculation and innuendo- its all you have.

And CDE's may or may not be experts in birth certificates- there is no indication from Reed Hayes own website that he knows anything about birth certificates

http://reedwrite.com/?page_id=2

Reed Hayes is a court qualified handwriting and document examiner whose business is located in Honolulu, Hawaii. He has nearly 40 years of handwriting related experience, and has worked as an international consultant and speaker. He has testified numerous times in various courts in the state of Hawaii and Supreme Court in Guam.

Reed is a graduate of the International Graphoanalysis Society and the Andrew Bradley Training Course in Forensic Document Examination (beginning and advanced). He holds certification from the National Association of Document Examiners and a certificate of training from the American Institute of Applied Science. Reed utilizes his handwriting skills in forensic document examination, personnel selection, jury screening and litigation support. He is the author and co-author of several handwriting related publications. Case involvement includes investigation of the purported Jack the Ripper Diary and the journal attributed to baseball founder Alexander Cartwright, housed at the Bishop Museum in Honolulu.
Qualifications


On the plus side- he is supposedly an expert on jury selection......
Graduate, “Forensic Document Examination,” Andrew Bradley & Associates, Denver, CO, 1993
Graduate, “Extended Training in Questioned Document Problems,” Andrew Bradley & Associates, Denver, CO, 1995
Certified, National Association of Document Examiners, Crawley (London), England, 2001
Board Certified, Scientific Association of Forensic Examiners, 2014
Graduate, Questioned Document course, American Institute of Applied Science, 2005
Certified Master Graphoanalyst
Paralegal Experience

Court Qualified Expert Witness

30 testimonies in various courts in the State of Hawaii and the Superior Court of Guam, 1993-2015

Author/Co-Author

Effective Witness Techniques for Handwriting and Document Examiners
Forensic Handwriting Examination: A Definitive Guide
Written in Crime
Between the Lines

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I question why you make that claim in the absence of zero evidence to support it.

Not that I care that much- the issue is moot- but its fun to show Birthers doing their Birtherin.

 

Here is the information I got from Google.

There are 67,800 results:

Reed Hayes

 

Reading Hayes' CV, I see he has zero experience in pdf creation.

Getting a handwriting expert to look at a pdf document is like getting an electrician to look at your plumbing.

 

Oh you meant Mike Zullo said that the birth certificate is a fake.

See I didn't Google for what Mike Zullo said- I was looking for something from Reed Hayes- nothing on Google by Reed Hayes about the Birth Certificate.

Just claims by Mike Zullo.

Another Birther- just like you.

 

That's just one of many experts in many fields.

Nobody has proven the fake birth certificate posted on the WhiteHouse.gov website is valid; no certified document expert has testified as to it's authenticity.

If you don't believe that he said it, try the other 67,800 articles that I linked to.

If Reed Hayes was misrepresented by Mike Zullo, I'm sure he'd have said so.

 

Mike Zullo is no expert at anything. And you have yet to present any assertion by any Certified Document Examiner to support your claims.

The State of Hawaii says the birth certificate is authenticate and says that President Obama was born in Hawaii. President Obama has been elected twice and will finish his presidency and go on to open his Presidential library.

And Birthers will be noted in history as a small idiotic blip- like Truthers and Flat Earthers.

 

Fail.

Let me know when you find someone who is a CDE willing to state the birth certificate is real.

 

Let me know when anyone cares.

 

Hip hip, HOORAY! Now we have a republican president. And it's none other than
Donald Trump! President Trump will surely expose Obama for the fraud he is! We
can finally find out why Obama scammed the American public with his fake birth
certificates and send his ass to jail!

[video=youtube;RN5N0LXiZjw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN5N0LXiZjw[/video]

 

Time to show the final conclusion of the investigation into Obama's fake birth certificates.

Did the Democrats put an illegal alien into the White House for 8 years?

 

Lol, birthers

 

he's a citizen president. https://search.wikileaks.org/?query...external_sources=True&new_search=True#results

 

Wanna know something? I really could not give a damn.

In fact, I could not even care less if he was born in Indonesia, Kenya, Hawaii, or Antarctica.

Simple fact is, his mother was a US Citizen at the time of his birth. And she never renounced her citizenship and returned to the US after he was born.

End of story, he is an American by birth.

And I take it even further. If a Mexican citizen comes up here and gives birth to a baby, I do not think it should be an American Citizen, but a Mexican Citizen. I do not look to the location of birth for nationality, but the nationality of the parents (primarily the mother).

But I find it absolutely insane that many "birthers" who claim he was born in Kenya and not a US citizen, will then turn right around and scream that a child born of illegal immigrants is not a US citizen because their parents are illegals and should not have been here in the first place.

That is trying to use 2 conflicting arguments to back your beliefs.

 

Trump knows the truth by now and if there is anything fishy with Obama's citizenship status or if there is a real Obama birth certificate out there, President Trump knows about it. As President, he would have access to that. He's probably holding it close to the vest. It could be he will spring it on us at the appropriate time.

Personally, I am of the belief that Obama is an American citizen. But I also know one thing for sure, Obama's birth certificate is a fake. Two independent certified document examiners have verified it is a fake. One is an Obama supporter.

 

Why are we bringing back a 2 year dead thread?

 

It's an oldie but it's still open. When someone goes off topic I reply to them on topic. That's what old threads are good for.

 

Because such tin hat conspiracy mythology appeals to certain people who cannot think for themselves.

 

You should read the thread. I explain how I didn't believe the birthers either. I set out to play devil's advocate and prove them wrong. Only after much research, I found out they are right. I challenge you to do the same.

 

Ted Cruze and John McCain were also born outside of the United States. Does this apply for them also?

This is not even beating a dead horse. This is more like flagellating with a dead hooker. Give it up ad get over it already. He is 2 years out of office, and it never mattered in the first place.

 

I assume he was born in Hawaii of an American mother. I don't doubt his citizenship. My problem is that the birth certificates are frauds. Why? Why is he committing this fraud on the public?