How the democrats continue to mislead the American voter. If you truly believe that over 200,000 per month new jobs are creating a revitalized American economy ..see the truth.. http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...ing-retirement-crisis-that-will-drop-your-jaw The U.S. Census Bureau defines the Baby Boomers as those born between January 1st, 1946 and December 31st, 1964. You see, after U.S. troops returned from World War II, they quickly settled down and everyone started having lots and lots of babies. This gigantic generations has transformed America as they have passed through every stage of life. Now they are getting ready to retire. If you add 65 years to January 1st, 1946 you get January 1st, 2011. The moment when the first Baby Boomers reach retirement age has arrived. The day of reckoning that so many have talked about for so many years is here. #1 Beginning January 1st, 2011 every single day more than 10,000 Baby Boomers will reach the age of 65. That is going to keep happening every single day for the next 19 years. End.. So.. for almost 2 years we have 10,000 retire every day.. every month..OFF THE EMPLOYMENT RECORDS..many.. like my friends.. claim the last 2 years in unemployment then drop off,creating a sense of improvement where NONE exist. So when you see this magical rebound in the economy..you know the truth..There is NONE.
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The labor force participation rate increase by 0.2 percentage points from last month. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm If anything, this is good news, especially in the context of baby boomers leaving the workforce for retirement.
Considering ALL, the U.S. economy overall has improved significantly on President Obama's watch. That is virtually indisputable... despite interpretations of or controversy over select statistics. It's fine to point out the specifics which surely need improvement, but it is just intellectually dishonest (even sinister) to try and foster the impression that the President has done little or nothing to improve this economy. And that especially when we honestly consider the Right-wing "obstructionism" he has had to overcome during his tenure as President. We may all be biased; but some of us have our eyes open.
If the numbers were getting worse, and unemployment continued to rise, the right would seize upon it and say "SEE, Obama is failing!". ...but when the numbers are getting better, and unemployment continues to fall, the right back-pedals and say "Wait..the numbers are fixed!" Obama/democrats aren't manipulating anything, you conspiracy theorist driven conservatives. The economy is gradually recovering from the 2007-Bush/Republican created collapse of the financial institution and housing market. Home sales on the rise? Stock market on the rebound? Unemployment dropping? National spending increasing? Conservatives are dismayed and upset that the economy is recovering.
The UE rate is still higher now than when Obama took office. Certainly Obama has done plenty. All one has to do is look at his deficits and one could easily come to the conclusion that Obama has done much. However, there are dishonest people on both sides of the aisle. Claiming that this recovery has been significant and robust when it has been anemic is not keeping your eyes open. Plus, it is getting tiring after almost four years of Obama cheerleading claiming what a great economic job he has done. Anyone who has been keeping their eyes open know that these accolades are essentially masked rationalizations.
Every President faces obstructionism. The good presidents are able to work through it while the poor ones simply blame it. Obama has seen some slight improvement in the economy but for all the money he spent; the argument is that there should be a vastly greater improvement than what we have. He also claimed he would get unemployment below 8% and reduce the deficit by half, neither of which he was able to accomplish. He has instituted no programs to help America that can be tied directly to improving the economy. All he did was dump a lot of money into it, of course your going to see modest recovery by doing that. However even FDR created many projects that helped rebuild the infrastructure and improve the environment, Obama has done none of this. This is why conservatives consider him a poor President.
The U.S. Economy was both unstable and headed for a "depression" in 2008 before President Obama took the reigns of Office. I know things aren't perfect now... but I can SEE the improvements coming into reality (local construction increasing, businesses opening, people getting jobs). I hope for much better... but I and millions of other Americans see good reason to be cautiously optimistic about things (considering how things are literally improving).
It is simply unknown where the economy was heading when Obama took office and there is no evidence that his spending accomplished anything that might have just corrected itself. This what-if scenario is his main point he is running on and its because he can't be held accountable for showing any numbers. Nobody knows what was going to happen. Perhaps Mccain would have improved the economy more. You just simply cannot attribute an unknown to the success of Obama. Its like saying there was an imminent alien attack that was thwarted because of Obama's cash-for-clunkers program. You certainly can't prove it wasn't going to happen so it must be true.
Some economists had a decent idea of what was going down; not all did. Even so, it doesn't take a genius to look back and see that President Obama was on-watch as the improvements were taking place. You are the one pulling the "what-if" here. I've seen the stats; the economy is improving. YOU and some others may not want to give the President credit for 2+ years of improvements... but there is NO way in reality that you can pull credit away from him (as he has been the President since the economy began to actually improve). Yes, we have a LONG way to go... but the economy has improved and is surely improving. "Perhaps" = "what if".
Actually, it was pretty clear where the economy was heading when Obama took office. All indicators were heading down precipitously.
And there is plenty of reality out there which doesn't paint this rosy picture and shows millions of people are struggling in a poor job market and thousands of businesses failing. This is most ironic coming from someone who claims to have his eyes open. I hope it gets better too, but we have been told how great is would be (and how great it is) if we followed these policies, despite the evidence that shows anemic recovery, we still have cheerleaders telling us how great things are. We have wasted substantial amounts of funds on a misguided stimulus and jobs bills. While there are some indicators that warrant cautious optimism, there is still plenty of indicators that warrant skepticism. I have been skeptical for years, with my original guestimation back in 2009 of actual recovery occurring late 2013 or even later with some concerns of some severe structural changes that may never recover, especial with some unemployed people.
If you've been reading these posts, you'd know that my personal approach includes cautious optimism. I have my political biases... but I am a "realist".
I have been reading your posts and your words are conflicting. You claim that there has been significant improvements in the economy, yet you are cautiously optimistic. IOW, the economy is showing vibrant and robust recovery, but we should be skeptical about it. It looks like you are backpedaling from your initial claim. You call yourself a realist all you want, however you are only seeing the rosy picture, as this is what you have been cheerleading throughout this thread. How is that realism?
The US economy hasn't finished crashing yet, all the efforts of the current administration to prop up the banks and housing market will ultimately fail... which is what PrezBO and his handlers likely want. The false economic indicators used by the state will show an economic recovery until after november, then the merde will hit the ventilatuer.
You simply misunderstand. I am stating (broadly) that I see the economy improving (as do more than a few credible experts), and that President Obama happens to be in authority at present. That being the case, he will get credit or criticism where it is due (in general). Of course, if you think I've tried to "define" the intricacies of this economy or predict future outcomes... then you have misunderstood what I've said.
You have not proven that either way; just say that it is your opinion. We'll see. In any case... you'd have to prove what you say for it to be completely credible.
So what have got for me..? Energy cost ? Home foreclosures ? Or more 3rd shifts building full sized bailed out Chevy pickups? THIS PRESIDENT added TRILLIONS in debt and gave us nothing but phony job creation and crony salvation. MY data clearly showed the number of retirees STARTED after Obama took office. FREEING up 10,000 jobs per day... You cant debate facts. Add the fact that illegals are leaving the workforce in hospitality because new laws REQUIRE a background and ID check in the good right to work states..and those employers are hiring DOCUMENTED workers for a change. It paints a better economy in-spite of Obama ...not because of him. NO construction ? No recovery.
It's a fact, historically no economic recovery has been possible without the housing market recovering first... and it's still sinking. The CPI is steadily increasing and unemployment is still high. There is no reason to believe the economy is in a recovery and every reason to believe it will fail. I say let PrezBO win the next election so he can take the full blame for the upcoming crash... which is inevitable,
I understood perfectly and you are backpedaling. You initial claimed that the economy has significantly improved on Obama's watch which is not correct. At best we have seen anemic recovery, which means slight improvement that is not significant. No, I do not think you have tried to define the intricacies of the economy or make predictions. Why would I think that someone who can "SEE" improvements be attempting to define the intricacies of the economy? In fact, I found your previous claim bordering on absurdity and antithetical to someone who understands the intricacies of the economy by offering proof simply by looking out their window. This is getting tiring and we are going to have to agree to disagree. You see substantial improvement in the economy and I don't. Take it easy.
