Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Ha

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  1. Bluesguy

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    There is no evidence because he has refused to release it.

    You have an assertion, that's all. There is no evidence it was a mistake, you don't know how it happened, where the information originated from.

    And how did they say the mistake happened, where did the information come from?

    How do you know?

    The Obama haters have been speculating and using innuendo to imply for years that President Obama misrepresented himself on his college applications- but all it is is speculation and innuendo.

    There is however evidence that he repeatedly and consistantly told everyone that he was born in Hawaii.
    What did he tell the colleges he applied to? Who told his literary agency he was born in Kenya?
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    So has a bio every been put out on you that said your were born in Italy or Canada?

    Non sequintur.

    Did you sign off on the copy? Was the mistake inspite of that and did you hand them all out anyway and not have the error corrected?


    What documents and how did it happen?

    Why do you think your personal analogies answer the questions as to how the literary agent believed Obama was born in Kenya?
     
  3. SFJEFF

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    Like I said- the evidence shows that Barack Obama was telling everyone he was born in Hawaii.
    The evidence shows that the claim of his birth in Kenya in this one pamphlet was a mistake.

    There is no evidence that Barack Obama has mis-stated anything.

    Everything else is the usual speculation and innuendo.

    I know the Obama haters love to speculate, and love to spread innuendo- because frankly you just can't find the dirt you have convinced yourself that must be there. But that is all you have- speculation and innuendo.

    Sucks doesn't it?
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    "The new president of the Review is Barack Obama, a 28-year-old graduate of Columbia University who spent four years heading a community development program for poor blacks on Chicago's South Side before enrolling in law school. His late father, Barack Obama, was a finance minister in Kenya and his mother, Ann Dunham, is an American anthropologist now doing fieldwork in Indonesia. Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii."



    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...dunham-chicago-housing-authority-barack-obama
    Born in Hawaii to the late Barack Obama,


    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2008/09/barack-obama-ha.html
    His own upbringing is a blending of diverse cultures. Born in Hawaii, where his parents met in college[/QUOTE]

    Who told them his father was finance minister in Kenya?
     
  5. Ronald0

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    Please explain how Obama kept getting all this preferential treatment for being born in Kenya while at the same time newspapers were reporting that he was actually born in Hawaii.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Convince me the school cross checked it with their records. Then explain where the literary agent got the idea he was born in Kenya.
     
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    Oh no thats not quite right either? That is almost a lie.

    There is no evidence that any literary agent believed Obama was born in Kenya. That is purely your speculation.

    But for rational persons out there, I provided lists of times mistakes happened regarding my identity, or my wife's identity. Mistakes happen.

    Now the Obama haters of course believe that this single 'mistake' is a secret code that Obama is using, like the Beatles put in messages to be heard if you ran their records backwards, while all the actual public declarations of Obama's place of birth as Hawaii are some anomaly repeated over and over again for 50 years.

    The easy answer for everyone who lives in the real world is that mistakes happen. And sometimes they are trivial mistakes that your political opponents try to capitalize on 20 years later.
     
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    Except his literary agent and the publishing world.
     
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    Seriously- you aren't going to be convinced by anything.

    You believe the speculation and thrive on the innuendo. You have convinced yourself that your speculation is real and the facts aren't trustworthy.
     
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    It is what they wrote and published.

    Has nothing to do with Obama's particular situation.

    And when you have nothing of substance go for the emotions...............pitiful.
     
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    In 1990 Barack Obama is interviewed by newspapers in Chicago, New York and LA, and tells everyone he was born in Hawaii- between those three markets that is over 20 million readers.

    He publishes a best selling book in 1995 telling everyone he was born in Hawaii- sells millions of copies, and gets national press coverage.

    In 1991 a promotional pamphlet goes out to maybe a few thousand individuals. The author of which says she made a mistake.

    Oh what a rabbit hole you conspiracy folk go down.
     
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    Verified answers are might convincing, excuses aren't.

    I believe facts and evidence. The evidence is his literary agent promoted him as being born in Kenya. The questions is where did that information come from and why didn't Obama correct it.
    Actually that is all you have offered in your desperate attempt to dismiss it.
    What speculation, all I have done is ask for answers to reasonable questions.
     
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    Yep- and the author has said it was a mistake. Funny how much more seriously you take what she wrote in 1990 than you do what she says in 2012.

    Not one bit of evidence that Obama ever stated or intended anyone to think he was born in Kenya.

    Purely all your speculation.
     
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    So you admit it yourself. He was telling everyone he was born in Hawaii except on one brochure which could then only be a mistake. If he were indeedd lying, would he not keep the story consistent in order to avoid getting caught?
     
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    Did he also tell them

    "Born in Hawaii to the late Barack Obama, once a finance minister in Kenya"
    He lied about his father?
    Without explanation, it was "just" a mistake. What does that mean and how do you "mistake" where someone tells you they were born?
     
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    Again- that is not a fact. That is your spin on the fact.

    His literary agent published a pamphlet with that claim.

    There is no evidence that his literary agent actively promoted him as being born in Kenya.

    The other fact is that the author said that it was a mistake and that Obama never provided that information.

    Funny how you grasp ahold of the first fact, and refuse the second fact.
     
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    I don't know that he told the newspapers or they got it from some where else. The fact remains somehow that was the information that got to the agency. At that point he may have been caught up in a lie that he told earlier and the truth catching up to him. That's what happens when you engage in such as my mama taught me.
     
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    A lie requires intent. Did Barack Obama lie about his father? Had Barack Obama been told the wrong information? Or do we have the wrong information?

    But good attempt at diversion from the fact that he repeatedly told everyone he was born in Hawaii.

    But I understand, you are desperate to try to spin your speculation as something to alarm people.
     
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    Ah when you don't have the facts that you want...just speculate about the facts as you would like them to be.
     
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    Yes that is fact, that was how he was promoted in their pamphlet to all the book buying houses and agents.

    That is a FACT you can't seem to explain. Why did he allow it? Where did the information originate from?
     
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    Yep when lies catch up to.......................


    What did he tell the schools he attended? And not speculation as you have been engaged in, facts.
     
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    Since I refuse to speculate, I can only rely upon the facts.

    The facts are that the author of the pamphlet said she made a mistake.
    The facts are that the claim of being born in Kenya is repeated nowhere else before or after that.
    The facts are that Obama is publicized as having been born in Hawaii in 1990 and in 1995- to the whole world.

    Everything else is just speculation.

    Like usual.
     
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    The fact is he was promoted as being born in Kenya.

    I am the one asking for the facts as to how it happened.

    Why don't you want the facts to be know and why do you think our speculation substitutes for it?
     
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    Possibly from the fact that his father was from Kenya and he also spent part of his childhood there. An error in miscommunication or just a random error is always possible. The agency themselves say it was a mistake. What more do you want? A time machine so you can see the whole sequence of events to make sure Obama never said that. Are you even reading your posts?
     
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    What lies? You haven't shown one lie yet. Just speculation and innuendo.


    Thats innuendo.

    I neither know what Barack Obama told the schools he attended nor do I know what Mitt Romney- but unlike you I consider that equally as unimportant for both of them.
     
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