Obama's Union Speech a 'Load of You-Know-What'

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Because it's based on facts, none of which you will dispute.

    I didn't see any anarchist SOTU responses... :wink:
     
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    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    Some of it seems based on reality.

    It seems the anarchists don't hold much sway, and that's a good thing. Reactionaries, on the other hand, are in full throat.
     
  3. Ethereal

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    Let me know when you want to address the substance of my opening post. It will be a welcome change from the execrable that I'm typically subjected to by Obama supporters.
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    Guess this thread is from last year...well this year it will be an even bigger load of crap.
     
  5. politicalcenter

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    Why in the world should my tax money be used to bail anyone out?

    But I guess everything works out when you borrow and borrow and borrow.

    The chickens will come home to roost. Obama says it will help the economy to extend unemployment benefits. Please tell me... how do you get six gallons of water out of a five gallon bucket? Or a hundred dollars fro a ten dollar bill.
    I am not saying the unemployed don't need a bailout but saying it will improve the economy is dishonest.
     
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    Surprisingly, I think Obama won't put out a "load of you-know-what". It's far worse than that. He'll actually tell the truth, and he has already put out the word. What am I talking about...?

    President Magnificent plans to rule by decree and bypass Congress if they don't bow down and kiss his royal half-Black ass:
    http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/01/26/obama-bypass-congress-2014-rule-agency-decree
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353328/obamas-rule-decree-andrew-c-mccarthy
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/26/obama-to-bypass-congress-in-2014-rule-by-agency-decree/

    Common sense and a teeth-gritting restraint forbid me from elaborating on what I think should happen to any president who tries to pull this kind of crap. But, as Bob Dylan wrote so long ago, "You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows." Besides, even if somehow, magically, Obama were no longer president, we'd be stuck with that other autocratic, Constitution-hating son-of-a-*****, Joe Biden. So what good could come of that...? But, with nothing standing between us and these rotten, stinking socialist bastards in the Obama regime but a bunch of cowardly, idiot RINO's, we're ****ed already anyway!
     
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    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    Ahh... the wight flag waving.

    So, I guess I'll assume you support the GOP's disjointed effort at a response, and that you support the reactionaries.
     
  8. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Your guesses and assumptions do not interest me... :yawn:
     
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    BitterPill New Member Past Donor

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    Well... that may be so, but my guesses and assumptions are a direct result of your rather inconsistent statements.

    In any case, if I don't hear from you again, you can assume I have accepted your surrender.
     
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    I'm receiving mixed signals.

    Aren't liberals against corporate welfare?
     
  11. politicalcenter

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    Doesn't make much difference what Obama says most sane people quit listening to him a long time ago.
     
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    What exactly is "our" auto industry? The one the union owns or the one that the Italians now own? Or, was it the many that got cheated out of market share that didn't seek rent from the tax payers? The vast majority of autos sold in the US are built in the US. GM and Chrysler buy the same amount of LCC parts as any of the others.
     
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    So, there wasn't additional hiring in Birmingham, AL or Jackson, MS so that these folks could keep their jobs. Go figure, a politician recognizing the positive while dismissing the net negative results to sell an unwarranted expenditure to the public.

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    In this instance, it sounds like you subscribe to a third option.
     
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    FACT: There were many other OEMs primed to consume this market.
    FACT: They would have hired US workers at the same rate
    FACT: GM did go bankrupt, there is now a new company in its place
    FACT: We spent a lot of money to prop up the UAW
     
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    Why is it so important for you guys to single out a company to benefit from tax revenue or in this case, from federal borrowing? Do you know how many industry leaders have risen and fallen over the last 50 years. The market works, and it is a helluva lot cheaper.

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    I have no idea how someone could say that it worked out well without being completely ignorant on the subject.
     
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    For those that haven't noticed... this thread is two (2) years old.
     
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    This is laughable. If not for the GMAC loaning dept, the unions would have bankrupted GM in the early 2000's. Once GMAC bit the dust, it was inevitable. Their unfunded pension liabilities are a giant boat anchor. Not to mention, management of the economies of scale that come with being that big was typical, slow, unresponsive and ultimately too late to compete with better managed companies.
     
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    The issue of an autocrat ruling the country by decree, however, is squarely in the headlines today. Go back in this thread and check the stories at the links in my Post #31, written yesterday. And, here's yet another one in Google News today: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/28/us-usa-obama-speech-idUSBREA0R07T20140128

    "Go it alone"? Where the hell does one find THAT in the U. S. Constitution...?
     
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    You are more than welcomed to begin a new thread in the appropriate section.

    Thanks
     
  20. Ethereal

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    The "liberals" wage war on the "one percent" by advocating for a continual stream of handouts to them. Take that, fat cats!
     

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