Off the Chart Universal and Multiversal Models.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    His wife died of cancer and so his desire to find an answer to this horrible disease in Wave Theory is understandable.

    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/cancer/treat1.htm
    Possibilities for Utilizing the Principles of Wave Theory for Treating Cancer
    I strongly suspect that he is correct about this and that eventually a link will be discovered between his basic idea with the Dr. Masaru Emoto research on how water is affected by words and music. I saw the film "Water" a few years ago and I was more than impressed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_(2006_film)
     
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    Sometimes a desperate situation can call for drastic measures!

    Our Creator probably views good humour as one of the greatest inventions………. even bad humour is probably somewhat appreciated for its value as well……………. if the Messiah felt that appearing to you in a ballerina outfit would produce a truly good result……… you might just get your wish…………… Besides……. the ladies seem to attain even higher levels of Messiah consciousness than we guys get to……… and you might eventually just get to meet Mary Magdalene in such an outfit as well…… setting up Big Bang type events that take the universe to a higher level is worth taking lots of risks to accomplish……..

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
     
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    I have been walking around with a smile on my face all week. This triggered a memory of an Extraterrestrial encounter I had many years ago. It was relatively nice.

    I know a little bit about this because there was a creature there that didn't identify as a female. It didn't identify as a male. It wasn't an it. It was something else. I don't remember what...

    I liked that one it was smart, cool, and, because I was a good sport and gave it a complement, it was super nice to me. I know, hard to believe. But, I think I made a friend. Then it left. It offered to take me with it, but I declined.

    Now, I miss them, I still can't believe I'm never going to see them again.
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    Again....Dr. Masaru Emoto's so called work has been DISPROVEN on so many levels it wold take me days just to post all the rebukes.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Happy for you Wga.

    Anything that ut's a smile on a persons face has value as far as I am concerned.

    Coming home soon!

    AboveAlpha
     
  6. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh good, I'm glad you're coming home soon!
     
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    And just to add, Spring is here! It's a little cooler than usual, but it's nice out some days.

    You left when it was still winter, so this'll probably be a nice change of scenery.
     
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    I hate sand.

    AboveAlpha...p.s...the kind that is so fine it get's in everything.
     
  9. DennisTate

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    During his NDE Christian Andreason also was shown some beings that didn't seem to be exactly male…… or exactly female?!

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
    Chapter 10 - Questions and Answers

    The Issue of Sex

    …….
     
  10. DennisTate

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    But…… those images that are on his webpage that are generated by positive words or uplifting music……. sure do look like snow flakes………… or the way that ice crystals form on a window as it gets colder……… which is at least some evidence that the people who seem so desperate to disprove his research may have financial incentive, or a career incentive………. to be afraid of the implications of what he found out?!
     
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    His claims have been disproven many, many times.

    He purposely staged his primary results.

    Everytime he has been asked to reproduce his primary results he has refused.

    AboveAlpha
     
  12. wgabrie

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    Oh, I have a question having to do with divergent universal states.

    Let's say we have you and me as we are today. Are we going to continue on in the same reality, or, let's say, in a year from now will we have each diverged into our own separate realities?

    I was just wondering because I have a thought.

    In an extreme example of such a thing might one of us encounter events that the other one does not? So that your future might be a completely different one from my future?

    Oh sure, I will have a version of you and you'll have a version of me, and such versions are stuck in the same state as you are, but will the consciousness behind the persons we are today still be in the same divergent state a year from now or in different states?

    This is a question of determinism and of choice.
     
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    Intelligent Question!!

    I have often asked myself the same question and then one reality came to mind....literally.....that being an Animal only get's a certain number of Brain Cells.

    Now basic Human Biology 101 and....well they don't have a basic 101 Class for this but I will call it.....GENOME MAPPING 2015......and NANOROBOTICS AND WE WILL CALL THAT CLASS....BAC I51.....with a LIME PLEASE!!!

    Human Understanding of GENETICS, GENOME MAPPING and NANOROBOTICS is growing by such LEAPS AND BOUNDS if we are not careful we......as in.....THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE....could make some REALLLY STUPID CHOICES that although at the time seem all important and the right thing to do.....in reality THEY ARE NOT!!

    Example.....as every person here KNOWS.....some specific types of people and this may have nothing to do with skin color or height or race, creed...etc.....some people will simply refuse to accept a REALITY as such a reality contracticts their Religious Beliefs.

    Now this is the United States of America and as I tell my Russian Friends the United States is so FREE you have a RIGHT TO BE CLUELESS!!!

    You have a RIGHT to be an IDIOT!!!

    You have a RIGHT to refuse Medical Treatment as long as you are over 18 years old.....AND DIE A USELESS DEATH!!!

    Continued......AboveAlpha
     
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    QM is not demanding a multiverse exists. There are other ideas, which are simpler, as put forth by Tom Campbell or by David Bohm and Hiley. And those things which you feel on a multiverse existing can explain something, are explained by these other ways of looking at QM. So I would direct you to the other ideas, that doesn't require an idea of a multiverse. And they are out there, ya know. I think you like one particular idea, and then invest in it as if it were the fact, while ignoring the others. Particularly Campbell's ideas on the subject. I can understand why you would not agree with Campbell, or Bohm, for its the same reason that you say the religious don't like the multiverse theory...in that it is incoherent with your beliefs.

    You always display such absolute certainty when it comes to what you believe in. Serious physicists though, do not indulge or have such luxury as you.
     
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    Please use mathematics or LOGIC to explain any of Bohm's CRAP???

    During World War II, the Manhattan Project mobilized much of Berkeley's physics research in the effort to produce the first atomic bomb. Though Oppenheimer had asked Bohm to work with him at Los Alamos (the top-secret laboratory established in 1942 to design the atom bomb), the director of the Manhattan Project, General Leslie Groves, would not approve Bohm's security clearance, after evidence about his politics (Bohm's friend, Joseph Weinberg, had also been suspected of espionage).

    Due to his youthful Communist affiliations, Bohm was targeted during the McCarthy era, .

    Bohm carried with him a key bent by Uri Geller as if it were a holy relic. When the key later disappeared, Bohm took this to be Geller's psychokinetic powers at work from a distance.

    It tok some time and convincing to get Bohm's obsesssion with Geller's self proclaimed psychokinetic powers as Geller was proven by many including the great Johnny Carson to be a liar and a charlatan.

    Anything Bohm has ever worked upon or written must be held suspect.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Hilly....another author of a concept he has no math or logic or proof to back as within his books such as.....The Undivided Universe - Ontological Interpretation of Quantum Theory.....he cannot Mathematically account for Quantum Teleportation or Particle/Wave Duality or how Observaton locks in value and function.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Thomas Campbell's stories might be good for writting a new MATRIX 4......but he has absolutely no evidence or proof in his concepts as interesting or crazy they might seem.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I am glad that you mentioned this..... googling attempts to replicate the Dr. Masaru Emoto research has led me to a fascinating web page already.

    This researcher does NOT treat Dr. Emoto's work with complete disdain.......

    http://is-masaru-emoto-for-real.com/

    Is Masaru Emoto For Real?!!



    .....................
     
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    AboveAlpha...… may I publicly write you up a concept for a series of semi-reality science fiction films that take place in the years 1536 to 1566?

    If.............. it is true that time will look like a menorah.......... and if........ a moment in the past could be recreated......… would you Sir be willing to go back into the past........ knowing all that you know at this time?

    Obviously........ the old proverb......"in the land of the blind the man with one eye is king" would apply to you....... and you would be able to have an amazingly positive effect on the events of that new time line beginning from 1536.

    The reason I am picking that time period is because in September of 2013 one of the most amazingly gifted people I have ever met online gave me a specific past life from that time period.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    But if you were to establish such a method would that not be violating uncertainty?
     
  21. DennisTate

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    On that note I should mention that I had a very interesting discussion with a near death experiencer who had what she perceived as memories....... of a lifetime.... five centuries in the future.

    She feels that she is back her with us now to assist us to make the transition over to a much better world..... with less violence and bloodshed than took place the last time we transitioned. What she reports sure would fit with non-linear time.... She is D. S. on this page.....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rencies-finance-films-address-problems-6.html
     
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    I didn't understand where you were going with that. You're all over the place.

    Well let's create an example.

    What if a psychic and his girlfriend get into a big argument. The guy says "I see that you'll be back", but the now ex-girlfriend replies "I'm never coming back."

    Who's right? What if they're both right.

    But not just in the way that in an infinite multiverse everything happens somewhere. But, in a way that both people as they were that day experience a different future.
     
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    Uncertainty principle is merely a theory that has become dogma. Thankfully, not everyone has blindly taken it as a given.

    Curves in spacetime violate Heisenberg's uncertainty principle

    Scientists cast doubt on Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
     
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    Well Dennis, If there are people with a foreknowledge of the future who are helping us out now I'm all for it.

    Bringing out the best outcome is a great thing, and I like that.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AboveAlpha View Post

    Hell is finding a 6-Pack in the Desert and it's Alcohol Free!!

    No, that would be closer o heaven. Beer containing alcohol is a diurectic. You would live longer on the alcohol free beer. Assuming you were wanting to live of course, and assuming you were stranded in the desert.
     

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