Oh the Irony!! Pro-Open Carry Senator Arrested for Possession of a Gun while DUI

Curry Todd of Tennessee was the champion of a Tennessee bill that would have made it legal for people who had gun permits to take their guns into bars while they drank........you know, like back when the West was won.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20111012/NEWS03/111012009/TN-lawmaker-who-sponsored-guns-bar-bill-arrested-gun-charges-DUI

In the most Ironic twist one could think of, Todd was drinking heavily one night, got into his SUV while heavily intoxicated and in possession of a loaded gun...and he was drunk enough to get noticed and pulled over by police.

I'm guessing his bill has no chance of ever passing now. Perhaps he championed it in a selfish attempt to excuse and legalize his own personal reckless habitual behavior. Who knows?....but what a laughing stock!

 

Are you suggesting that alcohol and loaded guns do not mix?

While drunk driving is an incredibly stupid act, I think having a loaded gun on you while being drunk is equally as stupid.

 

I take it you're not big on the 2nd Amendment.

 

I think the police are suggesting that.

Personally, I've never had more fun with gunplay than when I've been intoxicated....but that's been few and far between and basically well removed from civilization of any sort.

Yeah beer courage really doesn't play well when you've got a gun.......you're more likely to use it aggressively and less likely to shoot straight. It kind of goes without saying.......doesn't it?

 

Hmmm. Do you think the second covers people who are heavily intoxicated having loaded firearms on them?

 

No, probably not.

But when libs use one incident to say we need to limit the rights of everyone I wonder why they have suddenly become so zero tolerant.

 

Two things I never did when drunk, and trust me, prior to get sober, I have been drunk literally thousands of times.

I never rode a motorcycle.

I never handled a gun.

Even in my most Skyy induced moments of poor judgment, I knew it was a bad idea. I am not sure what possessed this representative to behave so stupidly, but he certainly did.

 

Who said anyone wants to limit the rights of everyone? Who says "libs" want to do it?

I am a liberal and I own over a dozen guns. I keep a loaded one on my nightstand. Go to my album and you will see plenty of hunting and fishing pictures. I have no issue with guns or gun ownership. I simply abhor stupidity.

 

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The 2nd ammendment is already very loosely interpreted. Don't get me wrong, I support individuals right to bear arms, but being drunk and carrying your gun in public is stupid and should not be defended.

 

I'm enabled by the second amendment to own and use my guns. I love it and would not be able to pursue some of my hobbies without it.

However, I never expect to be able, nor do I see a reason to take my handgun when I go to the bar to drink without the owner of the establishment having a right to stop me. If I were a bar owner and they had such a law in my state, I would shutter my business.

I support responsible gun ownership and I don't expect my rights as a gun owner to be absolute.

 

With all the stories and topics in the nethersphere you have to wonder why one minor incident catches the attention of the original poster here.

Normally those who are cold to the right to keep and bear arms are the first to crow when someone on the other sides messes up.

 

The bar owner does not have to allow guns in their bar.

The 2nd Amendment exists to protect citizens from gun grabbers in the government who want Big Brother to have all the power.

 

I don't think this one incident is being used to deprive anyone of their 2nd Amendment rights...

However, there is no reason anyone should be allowed to be drunk and carry a weapon...

Guns don't inherently kill anyone, but, when you introduce alcohol into the mix, you greatly increase the possibility for something to happen...

 

Because it was amusing in an ironic sort of way and demonstrated the poor judgment of someone who is pushing a bill that in some ways parallels his act of poor judgment?

Okay. Still, no one said anythign about curtailing gun rights.

 

The funniest thing is he keeps claiming he's not a liberal.

 

I think responsible gun owners should not be prohibited by the government from taking a gun to a bar.

It's not legal in this cop's home state so clearly he violated the law that he was trying to change.

And the gun phobia crowd will use it to prevent the law from being changed.

 

I guess they can make house rules to the contrary.....but it would be very hard to enforce such a rule and the consequences/deterrent go away with such a law.

 

I know.

I've tried to "out" TheLastBoyScout many times but he always sticks to his story of being a moderate/independent.

 

When his positions fly in the face of that characterization.

 

The bar owner certainly has the right to prohibit guns in his bar.

As for enforcing it I'll bet they don't mind having off-duty cops hanging around with a piece in their pocket.

 

I'm definitely not an ideologue.....I follow neither the kooks on the far right, nor the kooks on the far left.

Perhaps that's why you have a hard time pigeon holing me. Reason guides me......I think for myself and am not a follower.



Back to the topic. If you want to get to know me personally, PM me and I may direct you to my Facebook page. This is not the place.....

 

That's what I said....but I disagree with effective enforcement of that kind of rule.

The biggest thing is the consequences..or, more accurately, a lack of consequences. At worst, they will be thrown out of the bar. This gives bouncers a whole different calculus.....if you even have bouncers. There are not enough cops to help enforce house rules at all the bars in any state.

 

Of course. Because bars are where folks exercise their best judgment. Nothing more

I would think the common sense crowd would work to keep the law form being changed.

 

I don't have any doubt about where you stand politically.

And I agree that you think for yourself even if you do end up to the left on most issues.

Not that it's any of my business because it's a free country and you can call yourself whatever you want to.

But it does not jive with what I hear from you.

As for FaceBook I'm not that advanced and don't have an account.

 

Most of the drunks who would use a gun are not deterred by laws or signs over the bar prohibiting guns.

And most responsible gun owners would pass out before they got drunk enough to pull a gun and start shooting up the place.