To me this is a clear violation of the eighth amendment. It does not say nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted (unless he's a bad guy). http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/16/justice/ohio-dennis-mcguire-execution/index.html?c=homepage-t
What happened to Joy Stewart does not change the 8th amendment. There is no question he was a despicable man, but the law needs to apply equally, or why bother having it?
I had to put my dog to sleep----and expected a quiet passing as the vet first gave him a drug to "put him to sleep" and then a drug to stop his heart. I was shocked when my dog started gasping, making sounds when his heart stopped. Death isn't as quiet as people imagine it to be---either with euthanasia or drug induced execution.
By virtue of them going the "Lethal injection " route, rather than hanging him, or throwing him to a pack of dogs shows them to be in compliance with the 8th.The 8th was not infringed. They tried the merciful sleep your way out route, (*)(*)(*)(*) happens...tough crap.
You should have read the story. They were using experimental drugs for the first time without knowing exactly what would happen. Clearly it didn't go the way lethal injections normally do.
I did read the story. Dont have a problem with any of it...except 15 minutes was a bit shorter than i would have liked. Keep in mind, it was Lethal injection...when they could have used any manner of execution. It was the humane option...if thats your thing.
Who cares? I don't know why we waste time worrying about the worst of the worst. Had he not terrorized and murdered an innocent woman he would not have been put down. But yeah I agree we should stop using drugs to put people to sleep like that, it's far too expensive and bullets are much cheaper and more effective. Guillotines can be made for pennies on the dollar as well.
I think executions are a PERFECT use for experimental drugs. If anything goes wrong, WHO CARES, he needed to die anyway. Study the side effects, observe the results. Its perfect. I hope he spent those 15 minutes in agonizing pain, but we'll never really know. If they just used a .22, its far more reliable, certainly cheaper, pretty clean, since the bullet bounces around rather then leaving a nasty exit wound and if being humane is the whole point, can't get a quicker death than that. Although, I'm for killing people in a far worse fashion than they did to the people they murdered. Its only fair, since those murdered aren't given any choice or comfortable ways to pass quietly. Give me a break with this bleeding heart crap=)
Amazing, for a group of people who claim to care about the constitution you sure don't seem to give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about the constitution. If we don't protect the rights of our most deplorable citizens, what's to stop our rights from being violated? It the "first they came for" scenario
The only sympathy I have is for this man's family. They also had to suffer because of his actions against another person. His death was relatively easy compared to what his victim had to go through. The fact that he wasn't subjected to the same cruelty she endured is kindness in itself.
But you're missing the point. by virtue of them opting for the Sleepy Injection, rather than the hundreds of other options available, ...they were complying with it. nothing is guaranteed, and unexpected results can happen with any drugs. If you can show they wanted him to drag on for 15 minutes when they chose the drugs used, then you might have something. Myself I still wouldnt care...but you'd have something.
"There are worse ways to die" is not an excuse. They used an experimental drug that resulted in a drawn out execution where he was gasping and convulsing. That is not humane. Period.
It's not meant to be an excuse...it's reality. They chose the "humane" option. The constitution is A-Ok with it as such.
When we indulge in the same brutality as these criminals committed, all we do is give justifications, examples and excuses to those who would wish to do the same themselves. Everyone has an excuse on why it is OK for themselves to commit a barbarity. If something is wrong, then WE shouldn't do it, ever. PERIOD. Locking up someone for life accomplishes the task required. And eliminates the attraction to the huge proportion of violent criminals who are quite happy to go out in a "blaze of glory."
We have yet to rape, beat, and kill any of these people so no, we're no indulging in the same brutality as them.
Peprsonally I am against Capitol punishment of all forms. An eye for eye leaves the whole world blind as they say. As long as there is Capitol punishment lethal injection is the most hane option. This however was not a standard case. They ran out of the usual drugs used and had to use untested experimental drugs that ended up causing convulsions an prolonging the death.
And Euro pharm companies are threatening to cut off all their drugs to the US, including most of the ones that we need medically, because some of their product is compounded into the lethal cocktail. Morality aside, there is a practical reason this man died a horrible death--European Progressiveness. It is not a matter of forgetting to order drugs for the execution. Executions are not going away. Liberalism is just killing the more humane way to do it.
Why? Do you happen to think it's a beautiful place and you think I would enjoy the scenery, or is it because I said something you happen to dislike and immediately treat anyone who thinks otherwise as an extremist?
Lol. It's the liberal monster's fault we kill people horribly! You could literally blame anything on the liberal boogeyman couldn't you?