OK, conservatives... You WON!! ... Now what?

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  1. bobnelsonfr

    bobnelsonfr Member

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    The election is over. Trump won. We can stop campaigning now.

    So now the question for our conservative friends is... What are you going to DO?

    You will cut taxes on the rich, of course. Both the Ryan and Trump plans, differing only in degree, ensure redistribution from the middle classes to the 1%. That is to be expected.

    But what else? Will you eliminate the Department of Education? The Department of Energy? The Fed? You have been screaming for smaller government for a long time. So... now what?

    Will you send troops to Syria? To Nigeria (there's a lot of Islamist terrorism there)? What, exactly, will you do to "win" the war against Islamist terrorism?

    Or... any other topics? You have absolute power. What are you going to DO?
     
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    The statement, above, is fraudulent.
    Wealth is not transferred from one party to another when one of those parties pays less in taxes.
     
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    Now we will use economic analysis, not play favorites to ideology but play favorites to the american citizens and workers. We protect our own interests before those of foreign nations and reinvest in Americans with empowerment of choice, employment, and entrepreneurship.
     
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    Shortly after Barack Obama was elected for the first time, Mitch McConnell declared that the best strategy for Republicans would be total obstruction. McConnell was right, and the result is the Trump administration. A secondary consequence consequence is that Republicans seem to have lost the capacity to propose policy.

    They are full of attacks on... whatever... but they never propose anything.
     
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    Wonderful. Anything specific? Bumper sticker slogans are not policy.
     
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    No, because of:
    1. Trump's appointees are still not confirmed
    2. The White House was won, but there are still many RINO neocons and insiders no different than the Democrats.
    3. There are the Democrats-in-Republican clothing such as Lindsey Graham and John McCain.
    4. Judicial forum shopping allows Democrats to have the constitution erased at least thru the Federal Court of Appeals anytime they want to by the self-declared demigod federal judges.
     
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    Thanks for demonstrating my thesis. Rather than proposing anything, you prefer to attack. That's OK, while you are campaigning... but the campaign is over. You won. It's time to move on. It's time to govern. It's time to propose policy.

    Do you have anything to propose, or are you forever locked in attack mode?
     
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    So... You confirm that you have nothing to propose? You know how to attack, but you do not know how to propose?
     
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    All I demonstrated was your fraudulent statement, which remains fraudulent.
    When you start a topic with a fraudulent statement, there's no reason to suppose you seek an honest discussion of the topic.
     
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    Now that conservative Trump won it's up to liberals to hound him out of office with the help of the MSM. You heard of Nixon and Watergate?


    Same thing now only more vindictive.
     
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    Hey, conservatives...

    How are you going to solve the North Korean problem?

    Syria?

    Iran?

    We've heard lots of criticism of previous policies... but those are over and done! You have a free hand! What do you propose?
     
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    Nothing to propose...
     
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    Nothing to propose...
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two years is shortly? Obama and the dems proved themselves to not be interested in anything bipartisan by then.
     
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    I don't know what planet you've been living on for the last 30 years, but the transfer of wealth away from the middle class to the very rich began almost the very day the Ronald Reagan's first tax cuts took effect. They were tax cuts for the wealthy, sold to the common people under an argument called "trickle down" The opposite happened, and the decision to switch from a tax system that taxed work (how most people make their money) at a much higher rate than we tax unearned income (interest, profits on investments or speculatiojn, I.e. paper wealth) was a direct contributor.
     
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    When you start a topic with a fraudulent statement, there's no reason to suppose you seek an honest discussion of the topic.
    As you do not seek said honest discussion, there's no reason to "propose" a thing.
     
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    Nothing to propose...
     
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    We see what they are doing. Complete dismantling of any regulations so the rich can get richer. Tax cuts for the rich. Even the child care plan, it gives 80% of the benefits to people making over 100K, people who don't need help with childcare, the poor need that.

    Well, have at it, you can no longer blame democrats when the economy goes in the *******, jobs don't come back (maybe some red meat jobs so the hacks will say "see, rah rah rah". The rich will get even more richer. They will pollute our air, our water, we will lose out on becoming the leaders of the future, which is green energy. They will destroy the beauty of our national parks. How is it not obvious? There is nothing for the little man at all. Turn off fox news, you are getting played.

    Apple is building a gigantic office complex that is run entirely on renewable energy, so renewable energy is great. No expensive oil, gas. No causing earthquakes, killing wildlife, polluting water, etc
     
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    That's because he still hasn't named most of them.
     
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    I wouldn't expect much.

    They are too busy trying to "defend" the Trump Trainwreck by deflecting to "But Clinton/But Obama/Fake News".
     
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    I pay $500 in taxes. You pay $50
    Neither of our incomes change; I suddenly pay $485 in taxes; you pay $50
    Please explain in specific terms how any of your wealth was transferred to me.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At the rate the democrats are keeping the process it will take 8 years to confirm the 1200 or so posts to be filled.
     
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    Ah. Trolling.
    As I said: When you start a topic with a fraudulent statement, there's no reason to suppose you seek an honest discussion.
    Thanks for the proof.
     
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    Running the government costs. If the rich pay less, then the others must pay more. Duh!

    Or... There must be compensatory budget cuts. What do you propose?
     
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    At this point all the RW has is derailment and deflection.

    How else could they rack up posts "defending" Trump?
     

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