OK. This is the "be fair to Americans" thread.

And you can't have food and water if you don't have the freedom to express and satiate basic needs; ie you're a slave who doesn't warrant feeding.

Not saying I am; I'm saying I want soldiers paid to protect the nation. Their work in the Middle East has mostly had a stabilizing effect. Iran isn't meddling in regional affairs as much and insurgent groups are being squeezed hard between Pakistani forces, Iraqi stabilization, and US soldiers in Afghanistan.

Deserved for what? What did America do that deserves such a large-scale attack. I could maybe understand if a nation like Vietnam or Iran launch these attacks; but a tribal band of rebels?

I'm not sure if you should be reported to authorities. It's not okay to attack any sovereign nation. South Korea's been at war for pretty much its entire existence, is it fair to attack?

 

"No country can preserve its own freedom in the midst of continual warfare"

 

Go right ahead.

Sovereign nation? Your nation spent 900 billion last year on death.

 

If warfare was as it was a half century ago; I'd agree. But as of late, wars can be fought without a centralized economy, without propaganda, and without a national effort. It just goes on in the background; most people don't even think about it once per day.

 

I am just trying to be fair.

Too fair, as it turns out.

The Dutch invented sprinkles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprinkles

 

it's an example, a metaphor for a more modern example. Freedom and lifestyle are cyclical, one cannot precede the other.

I don't think you look far enough into the future, or into national security in the broadest of terms, to see the sociopolitical chain that threatens America; the past administration chose a specific link.

I don't understand you..

Or preventing death; that's how I see it.

 

What did America do that deserves an attack from a "rebel group".

Do you want me to add up the innocent lives they have slaughtered in their wars and war funding?

Do you want me to tell you about how they spread nuclear weapons around the world giving knowledge to those they trust to hold these weapons of genocide?

Do you really need to hear about all the wars you have been a part of and the opposing sides story?

Can you not hear it in your people? Can you not see how being at war for so long threatens your country?

The United States would be the first to invade a country if they declared war.....But if the states declares war noone can oppose without somehow becoming criminal or in support of terror.

I really wish they didnt hit the trade centers but I couldnt be happier about the pentagon and I hope that if they continue with their foreign policy an prepetual war they get a few more bombs dropped in the US of A on some prime military targets.

Do you need to report me to the authorities?

What law have I broken?

 

Whos death are your preventing by killing 100,000 civilians iraq and how many in afganistan?

Do you really think the views of these people die with them?

 

But these nations didn't attack America.

And I still don't see how this excuses the group of people who commit acts of terrorism.

I don't want to see innocent people be killed; so I would prefer if bombs were not dropped: anywhere. But that's not likely to happen. And the difference is, as horrible as America's accuracy seems to be with its attacks; militants do die. Terrorists seem only to be capable of killing civilians...

 

Probably no one's, but the civilians aren't exactly the target. The militants that die could easily be responsible for acts throughout the world; as seen by... well, acts throughout the world.

 

Basically what you are argueing is that any act of war against the united states is an act of terrorism.

You are also claiming that other countries should not fight for each other. Unless of course its the USA doing it.

Please....go to sleep and say a prayer that your government stops spending the freedom honey on killing people.

 

You believe this bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? What you are saying is most people turn a blind eye to it. They do this because their freedom to oppose is in a stranglehold and their inspiration to make a real difference is lacking.

 

What's funny is that you assume just as much as he does, you just use the word 'liberal'.

 

Any attack that targets civilians, yes. Usually, these attacks target military places; ie Pearl Harbor.

Countries shouldn't fight each other; but countries aren't. The US isn't fighting a nation; it's fighting a network that wants nothing more than to kill civilians for shock value.

 

Terrorist acts in North America have increased since Iraq...

They can make a minor difference but not one thats worth a 900 billion dollar a year price tag.

We need to make a real difference and shoot for some real dreams of freedom.

You want your militart to protect you? Best bet is to stay on home turf. Best defence is not to offend.

 

Or what I'm actually saying is that the current war effort, and even those of Vietnam or the Gulf didn't demand sacrifice on a grand scale (rationing, reduced wages and extended hours, etc). It goes on in the background as the majority of America carries on with their life.

Others are worrying and fighting for them; out of sight.

 

If you invade a country and kill their civilians you have commited an act of war against their country. If you think that some Iraqis dont view it as an invasion and an act of war your wrong.

This is only creating animosity and bring an attack against the USA closer to being justified in anyones mind if they arent arrogant and biased.

You claim to defend your country by attacking across the ocean. The nations you attack cant even hit you with a missle let alone can any of these militias there.

You arent defending your country your destroying your very own freedom and killing more innocent people than militants.

Your wars have already failed and the price tag was the first step to freedom for billions of people.

 

This issue effects people psychologically and economically....

You spent 900 billion on killing terrorists in iraq because you are worried about me and are fighting for me???

Your gonna get me killed (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Won';t read the rest of this anti am fest... but on first glance.. how bout this:

We gave your your dogs health and probably your livelyhood in NZ now too.

Many healthcare people docs come here to the Us to get their education and training in order to return to NZ..... doh. I love NZ but hate ingratitude by folks we help.....

 

Alot of americans dont really like "fairness"....

They certainly dont like to hear how they are fair game for a military attack as a result of their own behavior around the world.

 

Why would they want to stay in a country that instigates an attack on its soil everyday. America is get in and get out. Make alot of their bread and spend it someplace else.

 

What on earth are you talking about?

We export doctors and thousands of other professionals who have trained here. Some of these are from my own family.

And I can assure you my dog is not on Medicare.

 

To be perfectly fair to Americans. From a global perspective you have lead several others into an illegal war. Contrary to the popular belief that this relieves a threat against your country you are actually damaging your reputation, threatening the freedom of Iraqis and Americans most directly. Indirectly you restrict the conversation to terrorist forces and demonizing the response to your attacks.

To be perfectly fair to Americans they can expect and all out attack against their military and political forces.

They can actually expect more trouble that they popularize as defeated in many sense due to the decreased amount of media regarding their own terrorist movements.

There is going to be some people held responsible for trillions of dollars in debt and a trillion spent for illegal wars.

China not giving you loans should actually be the reaction of EVERY country.

 

Aids......

 

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