Old Enough for a Sex Change but Not Old Enough for Sex?

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  1. JohnHamilton

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    There is parental consent, but you ignore the issue of grooming the child and pushing on the parents.

    Your lack of any level of skepticism is disgusting when a child’s development is at stake.

    This is the cheap response from a progressive. “Show me an Internet link.” Show me a link that supports your position.
     
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    Forget about liberal like me, even GOP primary voters don’t think this is an important issue. Ron DeSantis put this “ kids sex change” as one of his core issue , and what did he get out of that?

    I do agree that there are more kids who are confused about gender then 10 years ago. But let’s be honest , the problem is among .5% American kids under the age of 18. This is where social conservatives have been making mistakes again and again. They get all worked up on this social issue which effect less then 1% Americans and they want to force those on others. I am not saying its only on conservatives side, on the left , we have our share of zealots who wants to push out policy which only effect 1% of Americans to everyone else.
     
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    Aha , so there is parental consent. Under age kids are not getting drugs from teacher/ school doctors to change their gender without parental consent.

    Oh my goodness. The party who used to claim “ government stay out of my family” telling American parents they have no right how their children will be raised? Government will decide for the parents.

    I guess I shouldn’t be surprised , “ Small government Reagan conservatism is dead”.
     
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    These are strange times. My guess would be there are many multiple more kids having sex under the age of 15 than kids having a sex change. One is prohibited and the other isn't yet the focus of outrage is on the smaller occurrence. When was the last time you saw a post raging against kids under the age of 15 having sex? The only time this happens is when there is an adult involved but in most cases it would be age appropriate.
     
  5. JohnHamilton

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    Do you know how much pressure the so called “professionals” can have on people?

    I had a professional urologist tell me I had prostate cancer based solely on a PSA test. My wife pushed me to get a biopsy. The guy tore me to pieces with his so-called “painless” biopsy which landed me in the emergency room twice. He didn’t give a damn about me. He got his fee from the insurance company. Later I heard other men in my neighborhood complain about this guy. It’s been 15 years later, and I have been in the clear under a different doctor.

    Not all professionals know what the hell they are doing. Some of them subject patients to needless procedures to pad their income.

    It’s no different with the sex change industry. They’ve got a compliant political party that is pushing this agenda for votes. In the mean time the doctors and the psychiatrists laugh all the way to the bank.

    Do transsexuals exist? Absolutely. Is it as common as the Democrats and the quack doctors and psychologists say it is? No way.
     
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    Do you believe ‘small government conservatism” or you think government should dictate how parents should raise their children?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Protecting children is a valid exercise of the police power.
     
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    Oh ok .. you think Government knows more then parents how to raise their kids. That’s fine. I understand your policy. Government should tell woman if they can have abortion or not, government should tell parents if their kids should have sex change or not, government should tell parents they can’t take their kids to Disney land or not, government should tell parents if they can take their kids to drag queen show or not.

    Aha .. I see .. Big brother , big government. Finally .. wow .. liberals and conservatives we all love Big brother , big government. I am speechless. Welcome, welcome to land of liberals.
     
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    well many liberals believe this. aren't liberals whining when parents don't want schools to provide their children with books about drag queens or homosexual anal intercourse? This is not a black and white issue that nicely delineates liberals and conservatives. If a parent doesn't believe in modern medicine and wants to sacrifice a goat when a kid has leukemia or severe bacterial infections-yeah the state has a right to intervene. when a school system is infected with far left woke administration members who think that indoctrinating grade school kids with anything from pro Hamas nonsense or the alphabet agenda-then the parents have a right to say NO. and that is the same if a public school is telling the kids that faith healing is the proper way to deal with serious infectious diseases or that those who don't believe in Jesus are going to burn in hell
     
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    Circumcision has absolutely nothing to do with sex.
    Nothing.
    Absolutely nothing.
     
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    sure it does, the loss of all those nerve endings will affect one when older
     
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    So its NOT performed on a sexual organ?
     
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    Biden groped a little girl at cspan in 2005 on video. So your bar is pretty low. Don't throw stones in glass homes.
     
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    It's not always elective. My brother was circumcised at age 8 because his foreskin was growing together. I was in the Navy with a guy who had the same problem and he had to have the surgery at age 20.
    You do have the DPT vaccinations forced on you at an early age. But that's for your own good. Just like you are forced to have a diaper change at an early age -- LOL
     
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    I have big problem with teachers who plant seeds in very young children’s heads about how they might be gay, transsexual, bisexual, into mating with animals or whatever else the LGBQ+ pressure group has invented. The vast majority of teachers are not qualified to diagnose this and they have no business pushing it in ALL CASES.
     
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    Your hate for traditional values exceeds your lack of common sense. Male circumcision is a matter of hygiene and does not alter a young mans functions in any way. You compare that to rather complicated , risky surgeries, and hormone blockers that alter a child for life and a good chance of impotency. You try to justify perversions and go to any length to do so. It's Democrat policy.
     
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    I too have a relation through my step mother that has a grandson who at the age of 17 whined and moaned if the didn't pay for a a sex change he would commit suicide. He got his way using a tactic that is promoted through social media. Now he, who pretends to be female, is married to a girl who pretends to be male. Just goes to show that these mental instabilities just attract more mental instabilities. I don't believe we should encourage them at all.
     
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    Aha now it make sense what you are saying.

    It is like Dr. Fauci telling American to wear mask, shut down business and stay home. And then Dr. Fauci telling American to take vaccine.

    Now it perfectly make sense, government telling citizen what to do. I love it. As a liberal that’s how I want things done.

    I just didn’t know “small government conservatives” wants government to tell parents how to raise their kids.
     
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    Do you have problem teacher planting seeds to young mind that there is an imaginary god up in the sky and people should dedicate their lives to that god and live their lives the way that imaginary god wants?
     
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    that would be different, then it would be a medical necessity
     
  22. JohnHamilton

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    Yes. That is teaching religion.

    We need to get back to teaching the three Rs. Tests show that many kids are way behind on that score. Covid and now the unfortunate influx of illegal alien children has made that objective even harder.
     
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    so you are ok with forced genital mutilation of children as a "tradition"?

    many people do not get circumcisions, it's an elective surgery
     
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  24. Endeavor

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    Ok , I see where you are coming from.

    Our education system is far behind then some of the leading western countries. Where do you think we are failing?
     
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    There are many reasons.
    • Some teachers are incompetent. Many years ago when John Silber was heading up the education system in the Boston area, he stated that some teachers, with college degrees, could not read or write. If that's true, it's ridiculous.
    • Teachers unions who stick up for their members who are not doing the job. My mother was teacher who taught kids from the third to sixth grade. She was very disappointed with the performance of some of her peers.
    • Parents have support the teachers at home. That means taking the time to sit down with your kids and help them do homework. It also means making it clear to your kid how important education is.
    • The curriculum needs to stress the basics and get away from the social justice stuff. Yes, aspects of it are important, but it is not more important that getting a basic education. When I was college that was class where we spent 10 minutes of an accounting class to discuss the Vietnam War because the college had asked teachers to do it. That was okay. BUT you didn't spend the course for the semester on that that. Your learned accounting.
    • Kids who are really bad and are totally disruptive need to be put in separate classes from the those who want to learn. There also needs to be support for kids who do well. They need to be in classes when they are not held back by the slow learners.
    I'm not an educator. I don't have all of the answers, but some it is common sense.
     
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