on the brink of war with Iran

We are much closer to war with Iran now than we ever were under Bush.

Every Republican candidate for President is beating war drums, but Obama might beat them all to it. He tried diplomacy and it failed but why not keep on trying peaceful means to avert a crisis rather than give up so soon and use the "blood, money, and bombs" approach GOPpers prefer?

http://www.thenation.com/article/166146/are-we-brink-war-iran

 

According to the article, Obama didn't have the brass to stand up to Netanyahu's Israel, who undermined diplomacy.

Unfortunately, this is a theme with the Obama administration. He will stand for something, then be confronted with opposition, then cave in.

 

China/russia are going thru the motions in the UN, behaving like true nilhlists seemingly not careing. Although it is no secret both sets of countries huge business dealings with iran.

The true measure for all this if the usa declares a war and pushes for bejing and the kremlins real position. Unlike iraq, iran has spent billions with the kremlin building reactors and selling oil to china.

2 of the perm 5 un members can veto it before it even starts.

 

“My administration is now committed to diplomacy that addresses the full range of issues before us,” Obama told the Iranians in his March 2009 Persian New Year video. “This process will not be advanced by threats. We seek instead engagement that is honest and grounded in mutual respect.”

Israel, on the other hand, believed Washington must repeatedly emphasize that the military option remained on the table so Tehran would not see the United States as weak. Thus, when Obama pursued diplomacy, the Israelis sought to undermine him by increasing their militaristic rhetoric...

And on the flip side there is an attempt to shift the blame to Saudi Arabia and France.

 

USA Diplomacy. Is so much fun. It never bloody works. Always ends with the american president waving a stick with the carrot lodged between his teeth. So going to upset europe again like the iraq mess?

 

Invading Iran is a suicide mission. It's not going to happen.

If Obama gave the US military the order to run off a cliff and kill themselves, they will ask to see his birth certificate. Not the fake one, but real proof that he is constitutionally eligible to serve as President.


It's fine for the Congress or the Courts to pretend that Obama is President. They're not the ones going to get killed by an Iranian missile, or have their kids coming home in body bags.

If Obama gave the military cause to take over, it would create a crisis that could only be resolved by the military removing him from power. The Jewish power in the meantime would be finished.

 

Nobody cares what you want.. This is a dangerous situation and if it goes bad, EVERYBODY loses.

 

This all hinges on the chinese and russians.

As usual with americans they ignore the bigger picture with WEB pointing out the ramifications of a possible military engagment.

Although how the power games play out remains to be seen. China have yet to flex their military muscles and russia are continuing to build the nuke reactors for tehran.

 

And how has that been working out for us? Is Iran behaving better now?

Believe me, I'm no fan of military action but saying "You better stop doing that or we will tell you you better stop doing that again." doesn't seem to be working all that well.

 

That is the whole problem with so callled usa diplomacy. Short sighted and threatneing. They should of followed other nations lead "which the usa cant as too close to israel" and ignored all the politics to instead put their head down for business deals. Worked for bejing and the kremlin who have a decision to make, join the americans for a new iran with lost revenue or continue the status quo with the iranian regime spending their resoures on russian military tech and selling low cost oil to the chinese.

 

What's the rush?

Have you considered the consequences?

 

Dont understimate the chinese. Also another problem is the huge usa ignorance to a country they have massive trade with. You should really learn about them instead of lost in vague propoganda.

 

Then this a dangerous game you are going into with geopolitics. As said russia and china have spent the last few decades securing business deals with terhan. Oil/military etc.. they wont be happy losing it.

Your view of world politics seems to be the usa doing what it likes in a world of other nuclear powers. As said a dangerous game.

 

China buys far more oil from Saudi Arabia than from Iran.

Iran isn't a US problem... Its an Israeli problem that Israel can easily solve with diplomacy.

 

Are you being intentionally stupid for my amusement?

Why would the usa risk trade war with china. you would lose more than they would. Your economy would tank while the chinese court foriegn corps to replace you. Forget it, you seem like a naive boy.

How does block work on this thing?

 

Iran is NOT a US problem...

And China buys more oil from Saudi Arabia than from Iran.