One day terrorists WILL sneak a nuke into the USA

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  1. Dware

    Dware New Member

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    It's just a matter of time before terrorists sneak a nuke or dirty bomb into The United States...

    Does that REALLY need to happen before people realize the lefts open border agenda is dangerous and kills people?

    Do we really need to wait untill MASSIVE casualties and nuclear fallout on a city before we get serious about the borders and Islamic terrorists?

    It is a 100% probably it will happen if we don't change our attitudes and start protecting American families from outside forces that want to destroy us
     
  2. Arxael

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    So what are you suggesting to do specifically?
     
  3. Dware

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    Shut the border...easily done

    Armed Drones could EASILY patrol the border

    Close off all immigration from Islamic countries for atleast 5 years....it's been done before

    Jail Islamic hate speech on American soil
     
  4. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you miss the part where he mentioned open borders?
     
  5. Arxael

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    So closing the border solves that problem? I doubt it which is why I asked for specifics.

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    Shutting the border...not easily done.
    Removing 1st amendment rights,...not easily done.
    Removing due process...not easily done.
    Drones? ....not easy and even conservatives have (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ed about using drones on terrorists overseas, what makes you think they will change their mind on civilians?
     
  6. Questerr

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    Why would they need to sneak it through out border? Most major cities in the US are on the coast. Put it on a ship.

    Also, what evidence do you have that confirms terrorists will ever get their hands on a nuke?

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    If you think drones can patrol the border easily, you know nothing about drones.
     
  7. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A nuke has to get into the country somehow and unless it's beamed over as in Star Trek it has to cross a border
     
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    And this Administration is worse than useless in combating it.

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  9. Dware

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    Shutting done the order is most easily done...

    People are just to PC about passing off the illegal mexicans....Democrats consider them a future voting block

    Closing down the open borders would solve alot of this countries problems.

    Not enough people have died yet for people to get serious
     
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    :roflol: ..........
     
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    They cannot build a nuclear bomb. Only the most advanced countries can pull that off. If they could get their hands on one, say from the Soviet Army Surplus Shop, they couldn't detonate it.

    You realize there are radiation detectors at sea, air and land entry points right? You do know something about what you're posting about right?

    The amount of radioactive material they could get their hands on would be so small you'd simply sweep up the mess.

    Strawman.

    Ah yes the mushroom cloud scenario. Big George W. fan are you?

    Calm down Chicken Little. Try decaf.
     
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    On a conatiner ship that hasn't even been through customs yet and is still sitting in the harbor.

    How does closed borders stop that?

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    Just to be clear, what crime had Mateen committed prior to Saturday night that the FBI could have arrested and prosecuted him for?

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    Yes, people do tend to be "PC" when it comes to having the government murder unarmed people.
     
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    Shipping, Canadian border, coastal incursion, etc. You somehow think that putting a wall up will prevent a nuke from entering. That is terribly naïve.
     
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    Over 11 million cargo containers are offloaded from container ships onto US soil yearly. How hard would it be to plant a nuke in one of those...assuming you had access to a nuke.

    Authorities estimate around 50 narco submarines approach the US a year. The latest version, 18 m long narco-submarine, can reach speeds of 18 km/h and carry up to 10 tons of cocaine. How difficult would it be to transport a nuke on one of these subs?

    How difficult would it be for a small cargo plane flying at treetop level to enter the US undetected? Narcos do this all the time, and only a small percentage are intercepted.

    How hard would it be for an inside man to gain access to a cargo car on a freight train entering the US?

    How hard would it be for an 18 wheeler to enter the US from Mexico?

    A soviet suitcase nuke could fit in the back of a Range Rover and be transported across uninhabited border areas.
     
  15. Dware

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    Their has been missing suitcase nukes for 30 years dude

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    Truth...like it
     
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    Suitcase nukes don't exist.

    If you are talking about SADM's they weight upwards of 300 pounds and are meant to me manpacked by a team of three guys in pieces.

    They also would have completely degraded firing triggers by this point that you need a nuclear lab and considerable knowledge of nuclear weapons engineering to counteract.
     
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    Why would they need to sneak it in? There’s plenty of nuclear material within the US, especially if they’re “only” after suitable material for a dirty bomb.

    I actually doubt terrorist groups would go to that risk and effort though. It seems fairly clear that the direct of travel is lots of relatively small attacks with civilian or home-made weapons which don’t need to organised cells and planning of the larger-scale attack but can have just as much social impact. It’s much easier and safer for the extremists to incite and indoctrinate the vulnerable and insane, as the most recent tragedy could well be a classic example of.
     
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    He assaulted and battered his first wife, by her own claims, didn't he?

    There were ample numerous opportunities for people around him to have had him arrested, but they were all too afraid of him, or too PC to do it. The FBI said he was just acting out because people at work were making fun of his muslim faith, and not really a threat.
     
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    So he would have gotten a few days to weeks in county, a divorce, and a restraining order. How would that have stopped his attack?
     
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    A biological attack the greatest danger with a highly contagious airborne disease. .
     
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    And?.........What does that have to do with what I said?
     
  22. Questerr

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    Except the most deadly and contagious diseases tend to burn out relatively quickly.

    To make a really dangerous disease that couldn't have easy countermeasures, you need something bioengineered.
     
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    You do realize that a shipped nuclear device that reaches the radiation detector and is randomized for inspection at an entry point would be in the United States right ? You do know that a detonation at an entry point would be utterly devastating right ?
     
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    Yea...just like Iraq was gonna do right?
     
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    You overestimate terrorist stupidity and willingness to die. Sure the underlings want to die and be a martyr but the ones giving the marching orders, probably not. A terrorist cell nuking the US, that's it, game over, for everyone. The US would belch nuclear fury across the globe.
     

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