One killed as Gaza 'Great March of Return' protests enter fourth week

no, you can commit violence against an inanimate non-living object.

even though Bibi the Nazi seems to think you can.

 

So... damaging security fence and other border installations as well as flying Molotov kites into Israel for peace are indeed non-violent, peaceful Palestinian protests... you're killing me

 

i never said that throwing molotov cocktails was a non-violent act.

dont put words in my mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yes you did; you've called Gazan demonstrations peaceful; they're anything but that.

 

most of them are.

there are lots of videos of peaceful non-violent Gaza protestors getting shot.

all on the orders of Nazi Bibi.

 

Not all Gazan demonstrators are peaceful? I have news for you Ronstar - not all of Gazan demonstrators are being shot at, either!

Thank you very much for admitting at least that much!

 

hundreds have been shot, by the Nazi Oberfuhrer Bibi.

 

Keep away from ****ing Israeli borders... please!!!

 

its not a crime deserving of death.

only Nazi Bibi thinks such things

 

Ten thousands Palestinian peaceful protesters, scaling security fence, digging under it, burning tyres, flying Molotov cocktails for peace and allowed to do it right next to Israeli border will result in much higher numbers of deaths and injuries. Israelis are doing what they are doing to minimize the number of deaths and casualties.

Fact.

 

lies, most of the protestors are doing no such things.

stop believing Sonderkommando Bibi's lies

 

Most do not, yes; these who are and try to sabotage security fence, or scale it, or fly Molotov kites for peace are dealt with. No argument there.

 

the Nazi IDF also shot peaceful non-violent people.

there are lots of videos of it.

 

You do not know the meaning of the word Nazi.
And you wrote you are Jewish.
Shame.

 

There are many governments around the world that shoot at their own people, never mind foreigners, and yet you' consistently and exclusively complain about Israel... why?

 

mostly because Israel claims to speak for me and in my name.

they tell me its my responsibility to advocate on their behalf.

and because they claim to share America's values, yet America would never commit the crimes Israel does.

 

I was listening to a video by Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro. He says "Israel does not exist to serve the Jewish people. The Jewish people exist to serve Israel.
The interests of Israel define the Jewish people."

I have often read Jews complaining that Israel insists on speaking in their name, insists on saying Israel is their home when they have a home somewhere else, even insists on them being Jews when they have no interest in so being and do not follow Judaism.

Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro points out correctly that when Israel goes to war antisemitism rises massively all over the world because Jews are seen as the same as Israel. He says Israel has no more emotional impact on him than China. As such he does not speak for Israel. He says that as long as Jews speak for Israel they are emotionally connected to Israel.

He suggests Jews stop speaking for Israel because they are feeding this by identifying with Israel. Even those criticising Israel when speaking from the point of view of a Jew are identifying with Israel he says. To him the way around this is to stop identifying with Israel, to stop feeling the need to defend or say 'not in my name'.

He also points out that prior to the Holocaust Israel was rejected by most Jews. I am not sure if he said this but I know that was because of what it stood for then and still stands for today - ethnic nationalism and taking over another people's homeland.

 

Here is an article on Israel going further in taken over the running of diaspora Jews including putting Jews with civil not religious marriages under control of Israel Rabbinical courts


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...get-new-power-over-non-israeli-jews-1.6054204

 

Haaretz or in it's Arab name "El-ard" is a Paleshtino Islamo Arabo Jihado extreme left wing "newspaper" .. Blahhh .. Fifth column ..
Haaretz El-ard also said that Trump will NOT build the American embaccy in Jerusalem .. so ?
Haaretz El-ard also said that Trump will NOT reject from the agreement with Iran which Hussain Obamba signed ... so ?
It's recommended not to quote articles from that rubbish "newspaper".

 

Yes the sooner fifth columnists are thrown out of the west the better, especially those who own media outlets, banks and politicians.

 

No it is you who called Jews fifth columnists, not me.

Here! Do not put your antisemetic words in my mouth.

That Old Holocaust myth, Zionists called Holocaust survivors "soap" as a term of abuse, antisemitism is never far from the heart of a true zionist, is it?

 

um...these are codewords for "the Jews".

anti-Semitism exposed.

 

Thank you, I certainly did expose the poster did I not?

Haaretz are Jewish are they not, and MGB Roadster called them fifth column!

Pity you did not recognise British sarcasm!

 

Israeli activists support the people of Gaza

 

I think I've already answered either this or a similar question several times before on other threads.

I have followed events in the Mid East closely since the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty as I feel like that volatile region is today's "Tinderbox of the World" in which a disastrous WW 3 is likely to be initiated.
Others may have different opinions but that is merely mine.

I think your question is essentially: "Other governments shoot their own people & foreigners so why single out Israel?"

The reason to single out Israel's Right Wing, Netanyahu regime for condemnation is because they are only possible because the US makes it possible for the monstrous killing organization that is IDF to carry out its war crimes and acts of aggression.
Without $ Trillions in unconditional US aid & US intervention in the UN, Israel couldn't build its Apartheid Wall, maintain the world's largest rogue nuclear arsenal, expand its illegal Settlements & maintain its status as regional super-power able to flaunt International Law with impunity.

Meanwhile, the victims of the world's oldest & most brutal foreign funded Occupations as well as the rest of the world knows that each missile, D.I.M.E. bomb, White Phosphorous round & all D.U. ordinance used by IDF on civilians in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria etc is funded by Americans.

Yes, other governments massacre civilians too but how many of them have received $Trillions(1) in illegal US aid.
I say "illegal" because the Symington - Glenn Amendment prohibits ANY aid to any nuclear power that is not a signatory to the NPT.
However, the influential Israeli lobbies who drive US Mid East Policy to the detriment of both countries ensure that Israel is exempt from this & other US Laws.

Even if the $ Trillions in "aid" to wealthy Israel were legal, Israel's lobbies make the US complicit in each & every Israeli crime & provocation.

Somehow, the same Israeli lobbies have made America even more deeply complicit in Israel's brutal Occupation, acts of aggression & provocations by quietly stationing US Troops on Israeli soil with the expressed purpose of defending(2) and even dying for Israel(3) regardless of what reckless misadventure Netanyahu may initiate. He can be sure that his equally bellicose puppet, Trump,(4) will protect him.

What should concern every loyal American whether they have served in the US military or not is the fact that America's young women & men are to be put under Israeli command in the event of hostilities effectively making convenient cannon fodder for any IDF commander who might feel squeamish about shedding Israeli blood.

I hope you can see, now, why it is not just the right of every loyal American but their obligation to condemn the unconditional support of Israel that makes the US equally guilty of Israel's aggressions, Occupation & war crimes.

That same unconditional aid also is detrimental to Israel in that it effective sidelines Israel's peace seeking element and moderating influences in Israeli government.

Briefly put, in the eyes of much of the world, Israel's crimes & abuses are America's responsibilities because we fund them.

Enjoy your evening


(1) “The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion”
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.culture.palestine/2005-08/msg00005.html

EXCERPT “While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many billions of dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S. support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3 trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars. “CONTINUED


(2) "AMERICAN TROOPS HERE TO DEFEND ISRAEL"
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5151907,00.html


(3) "US Commander: ‘US Troops Prepared to Die for Israel’ in War against Syria, Hezbollah"
https://www.mintpressnews.com/israe...a-harbinger-of-war-on-syria-hezbollah/238768/

EXCERPT "In addition, Israel has been laying the groundwork for an invasion of Syria since last year and is largely responsible for the current conflict in Syria that has raged on for seven years. Israel’s current push to invade Syria is also based on flimsy evidence suggesting that Iran is establishing bases in Syria to target Israel.

Israel has also been preparing for a conflict on the embattled Gaza strip, which – owing to the effects of Israel’s illegal blockade and the devastation wrought by past wars – is set to be entirely uninhabitable by 2020.

Beyond the fact that Israel is preparing to go to war with several countries simultaneously is the fact that U.S. ground troops are now “prepared to die for the Jewish state,” according to U.S. Third Air Force Commander Lt. Gen. Richard Clark.

However, more troubling than the fact that U.S. troops stand ready to die at Israel’s behest was Clark’s assertion that Haimovitch would “probably” have the last word as to whether U.S. forces would join the IDF during war time. In other words, the IDF will decide whether or not U.S. troops become embroiled in the regional war for which Israel is preparing, not the United States.

Indeed, Haimovitch buoyed Clark’s words, stating that: “I am sure once the order comes we will find here U.S. troops on the ground to be part of our deployment and team to defend the state of Israel.”CONTINUED



(4) "How Netanyahu Pulls Trump’s Strings"
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/10/15/how-netanyahu-pulls-trumps-strings/