One of the more cynical, disgusting things I've seen...and that's sayin' something

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No money for drug pipes: Feds douse social media firestorm

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Dousing a social media firestorm, the Biden administration said Wednesday that a grant program to counter harm from illicit drugs will not pay for safer pipes to smoke crack or meth.

    The White House was put on the defensive as outrage from the political right, some of it with racial overtones, was cresting online.
    “No federal funding will be used directly or through subsequent reimbursement of grantees to put pipes in safe smoking kits,” Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra and White House drug policy adviser Rahul Gupta said in a joint statement.

    White House press secretary Jen Psaki said separately it was never the intention to pay for drug pipes, and complained that any such impression was created by “inaccurate reporting.”

    https://apnews.com/article/business-health-jen-psaki-xavier-becerra-5faa62ff133830b6367f5869f644731d

    Never in a million years will you guess who jumped on the crack pipe bandwagon. OK, maybe you can. Maybe it's the most simple thing to guess ever. https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-ne...ion-program-misinformation-racism-and-attacks

    Right wing media took a program designed for "harm reduction" among drug addicts and turned it in to a false story about crack pipe distribution. Repub senators Marco Rubio and John Kennedy took the bait. So did anchors at Faux because.....well......it's Faux.

    Better to deceive their audience with lies, putting the admin on the defensive, gin up anger and confusion, than talk about the strength of the economy or the effective response to COVID.
     
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    I thought you would have learned by now. Do not take anything government says at face value.
     
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    Misinformation is a serious problem for the right.
     
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    I guess Hunter Biden does not want to share.
     
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    But but but……Jen Sucki never lies.
     
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    It's not crack pipes it's "safe smoking" kits.

    Only an incompetent **** weasel like Biden would say something that stupid.

    What a moron.
     
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    The bill states:

    (a) IN GENERAL.—No Federal funds, including funds appropriated by section 2706 of the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 (42 U.S.C. 290dd–3 note), may be used for the purchase, or to support the purchase by any recipient of Federal assistance, of any drug paraphernalia.

    (b) DEFINITION.—In this section, the term ‘‘drug paraphernalia’’— (1) has the definition given to that term in section 863 of title 18, United States Code; and (2) includes, to the extent covered by such definition, crack pipes, harm reduction vending machines, syringes, and safe smoking kits and supplies.


    https://www.dailywire.com/news/repu...INKVByYfnw-l3LBVdIRq30TCdkFr_rnyGxtI7SvyJgMs0
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The lesson to be learned here is not to take anything right wing media says at face value.
     
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    Who would have guessed? ;)
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's right, you're wrong. But I do see why RWM tells so many lies. Some folks still believe them after they've been debunked.
     
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    Why should any money at all be spent on "harm reduction" among addicts?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, it was RWM that lied, so................
     
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    No.... the MSM seemed to have missed new legislation that shows the RWM is the truth tellers... not you...
    But you're right, your kind of posting of ""incredibly irresponsible, factually incorrect, potentially lethal garbage should be banned on this board"

    The bill states: the Hunter Act... appropriately named...

    (a) IN GENERAL.—No Federal funds, including funds appropriated by section 2706 of the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 (42 U.S.C. 290dd–3 note), may be used for the purchase, or to support the purchase by any recipient of Federal assistance, of any drug paraphernalia.

    (b) DEFINITION.—In this section, the term ‘‘drug paraphernalia’’— (1) has the definition given to that term in section 863 of title 18, United States Code; and (2) includes, to the extent covered by such definition, crack pipes, harm reduction vending machines, syringes, and safe smoking kits and supplies.


    https://www.dailywire.com/news/repu...INKVByYfnw-l3LBVdIRq30TCdkFr_rnyGxtI7SvyJgMs0
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Basic human attributes like compassion and empathy. Ever hear of them?

    “HHS and ONDCP are focused on using our resources smartly to reduce harm and save lives. Accordingly, no federal funding will be used directly or through subsequent reimbursement of grantees to put pipes in safe smoking kits. The goal of harm reduction is to save lives. The Administration is focused on a comprehensive strategy to stop the spread of drugs and curb addiction, including prioritizing the use of proven harm reduction strategies like providing naloxone, fentanyl test strips, and clean syringes, as well as taking decisive actions to go after violent criminals who are trafficking illicit drugs like fentanyl across our borders and into our communities. We will continue working to address the addiction and overdose epidemic and ensure that our resources are used in the smartest and most efficient manner.”
    https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022...r-becerra-and-ondcp-director-rahul-gupta.html
     
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    "The story went viral, much to the annoyance of HHS and the Biden administration. The day after the article was published, a department spokeswoman tweeted, in response to a video by Marco Rubio, that the Free Beacon story was “blatant misinformation.” In the current media environment, this was, in effect, a call for the story to be suppressed.

    The fact-checkers dutifully fell in line. Snopes rated the story “mostly false” on the grounds that the smoking kits, which could contain crack pipes, were “just one of around 20 components of the grant program.” Facebook partner Lead Stories, the organisation behind the fake debunking of an article in the British Medical Journal, released a “hoax alert,” which categorically stated the story was “not true.” Their reasoning was that the smoking kits were “just a few of the many materials that grantees can utilize.”

    Although neither of these fact-checks actually debunked the original reporting, they were enough to prompt Facebook to slap a misinformation tag on the article, which directed users attempting to share the story to the Lead Stories fact-check. Jen Psaki appeared later in the day to denounce the Free Beacon’s “inaccurate reporting.”

    Apparently, however, Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra considered the reporting accurate enough to issue a press release clarifying that going forward, no pipes would be included in the grant programme. The Drug Policy Alliance responded by releasing a statement lamenting that the government would “no longer” be providing funding for the pipes. Snopes, in response to the government’s new guidance, updated its rating from “mostly false” to “outdated,” in the process conceding that the original story was correct."
    https://unherd.com/thepost/fact-checkers-wrongly-label-crack-pipe-story-false/

    Seems there was something to the original story.
     
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    I am indifferent to the fate of those who choose to harm themselves.
     
  18. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Understood. I'm just not sure why you'd advertise your inhumanity.
     
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    If you want to spend $300 million to stop the spread of drugs....

    WALL
     
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    It's hardly "inhumanity" to believe in personal responsibility. I give to help those who are injured by forces beyond their control. I do not enable those who injure themselves.
     
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    But Jen Psaki said...
     
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    We want something that will work.
     
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    You do if you're paying any kind of insurance premiums.

    Our taxes pay for prisons...

    Not rehabilitation.
    Not mandatory mental health services.
    Not required completion of GED and/or vocational training.
    Not budgeting.
    Not parenting.
    Not anger management.
    Not personal development.
    Not substance abuse support.

    Just warehousing criminals with other criminals so they have all the free time in the world to learn how to become better criminals.
     
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    It's doing wonders in California isn't it
     
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    Walls will go along way to combat the drug/human trafficking coming across our border.... only a fool would believe otherwise.
     
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