Only a week after the election...

And all of a sudden the vaccine that Creepy Joe labeled as absurd is NOW being labeled as being 99% likely to be effective, and ready to go, at least to a certain extent, by the end of the year.

What happened, Joe, I thought you said the very idea was absurd just a week or two ago? But now you're liking it?? Do esplain... (sic)

https://www.fox13news.com/news/fauc...ely-available-for-high-risk-cases-by-december

 

You expect it to be available by the end of the year? My aren’t you an optimistic one.

 

Where is the LINK?

Links are required in Current Events.

Also? Where are you getting 99% from?

Everything that has been published says 90%.

Why are you spreading BS?

Pfizer’s COVID-19 Vaccine 90 Percent Effective: Initial Data

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...ccine-90-percent-effective-initial-data-68138

 

Need you ask?

Never mind that it is almost impossible to distribute due to the extremely low storage temp required. And it won't be generally available until next summer.

 

Exactly.

The OP is riddled with misinformation.

 

Wow, a thread started with false garbage on top of false garbage. Please don't dump your trash here.

 

Not ME personally, the manufacturer, the government (link), AND (most importantly to this thread) Creepy Joe. So now Pfizer, Fauci, and Biden are the optimistic ones, which was the whole point of this thread. Perhaps you weren't aware of that.

 

Check your facts. What’s the storage plan?

 

90% effective.

Second, they promised 50 million doses by the end of the year, meaning 25 million vaccinations (2 doses each).

The majority of the population will be lucky to get it in February to March. That's what most people said would be an optimistic timeline.

 

Here.

So I've been informed. Thanks for reporting me, though.

The TV news report I saw said 99%. But you're right, the article does say 90%, but just a week ago (or maybe two by now) the very idea was "preposterous" according to Creepy Joe. Whether it's 90% or 99%, that's far from "preposterous".

As I have now well documented, I'm not. Unless you actually consider 90% to be "preposterous" (which apparently Pfizer, Fauci, the FDA, and Biden now no longer think (and only "coincidentally" now that the election is over)).

As for the required cold storage, that is not a problem for the US, which is what Trump has jurisdiction over, and likely soon will Biden:

"The vaccine must be stored at temperatures of minus 70 degrees Celsius or below. Breaking the cold chain could render the vaccine useless. In countries with intense heat and in regions with spotty electricity, these requirements will prove problematic."

But, for rural locations in the US for whom the above may be problematic, according to the FDA:

“Ultra-cold vaccine may be shipped from the manufacturer in coolers that are packed with dry ice,” the Oct. 29 interim guidance said. “These coolers should be repacked with dry ice within 24 hours of receipt of shipment (day 0), and repacked again every five days to maintain required temperature. On day 15, the vaccine should be moved into the refrigerator, stored at 2 degrees C to 8 degrees C and used within five days (120 hours)."

Link

Therefore, for the US, it's not a problem, nor is it "preposterous", nor was it 2 weeks ago. And the US is what's relative to this discussion. Yes, some countries may have problems that the above can't solve, but that's their problem, not ours. Or Trump's, or Biden's, in their official capacity as POTUS. Yes, we might care, we might even try to help, but it is not our country's job to solve that problem, nor is it POTUS's. Make sure in addition to reading the above link (the last one) you also view the embedded video.

 

Which, according to the link I provided that you obviously didn't read is "Dr. Anthony Fauci, the U.S. government's top infectious disease expert, said that a coronavirus vaccine could be available for the nation's highest-risk individuals as soon as December." (Emphasis mine.) If that's good enough for him, it's good enough for me, and apparently it's good enough for Joe.

 

See above. It's not an issue for the US, which is the only relevant geography to this discussion.

 

I can't edit my OP anymore, but here's the link I should have included: Link

Attention MODS: Since I have now provided that, please put this back in Current Events where it belongs. TIA.

 

There must be some leftist and/or DNC talking points about this, as every post in opposition to my OP is saying basically the same exact thing in their objections.

 

End of the year is overly optimistic regardless of who said it.

 

90% effective and they hope to start distribution by year end. Distribution will be difficult because it has to be kept at very low temperatures- 70 to -90 degrees.

 

Happy to see how you trust Dr. Fauci. Yes, Dr. Fauci is an epidemiologist. Biden is not. Nor does he have an epidemiologist in his staff (I don't think) What do you think would be Trump's excuse, who does have epidemiologists in staff, when he didn't act on Dr. Fauci's recommendations? Which caused over a hundred thousand additional deaths.

 

They said they would be trying for 20 million a month. So they will be going to healthcare workers and nursing homes and other at rish people first.

 

It won't be availavble for everyone. They can only make about 50 million doses (each person needs two doses). So it will only be for medical workers, nursiong homes, and others who are the most at risk.

After december, they think they can make about 20-30 million doses a month.

The only reason they have 50 million doses available for december is because they spent the last two months producing it on mass following their successful tests anticipating FDA approval.

 

For requests to the Mods, use the "Questions and Feedback" Forum. But you should probably first check the requirements of the Current Events forum. The link is only one of them. I don't think this thread qualifies.

 

From your link
Fauci's comments in a Tuesday interview with MSNBC come a day after Pfizer announced that a vaccine being developed in partnership with BioNTech proved more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 in a Phase 3 clinical trial.

 

Which recommendations would that be? The one back in the beginning when they specifically told the public NOT to wear masks? Or the ones now, where many government entities are making wearing masks legally mandatory, regardless of whether or not they actually have the authority to do so? Or the very latest and greatest, where they're making specific recommendations about what TYPES of masks are acceptable and which are not?

See, here's the thing. We didn't know jack-squat about this virus when this all started, and we don't know all that much more now. People think it started in Januaryish of 2020, but I think it was probably circulating undiscovered for weeks if not months before that. However, I think you're allowing your personal hatred of Trump to cloud your judgement. He didn't personally create or cause the release of the virus. His actions in Q1 of 2020 may have been wrong, but may not have. To this day nobody knows for sure.

Was he racist for shutting down travel from China when he did, or stupid for not doing it sooner?

Was he stupid for not shutting things down earlier, or was he correct in recognizing that the Federal Government doesn't have the authority to do so in the first place?

Were Governors acting within the scope of their powers by shutting down businesses or creating mask mandates with the stroke of their pens, or should that have at least required Legislative approval? And even with Legislative approval (which basically didn't happen anywhere), do the States have the authority to do so in the first place?

Ignoring the above, was it done too soon or too late, and was that Trump's responsibility?

I could go on and on, but so many unanswered questions that you ultimately hold him responsible for, not because he did the right or wrong thing, but because you hate him as a person, as do many millions of others for reasons I don't understand.

During the election cycle, I kept hearing Joe complain about the availability of PPE, but the truth is while that may have been an issue many months ago, it no longer is.

Anyway, I'm rambling, so I'll just end it there.

Did it? Or were those deaths inevitable anyway? I mean, yes, all of our deaths are inevitable as the leading cause of death is birth, but were those "covid deaths" going to happen close to when they did due to advanced age and other "pre-existing conditions" (I know you guys LOVE that topic)? Reality is, nobody knows. And since hospitals and other providers get more gubment cheese for treating covid deaths than other kinds, they're incentivized to label them as such even when they're not. Fer crissake, close to where I live a guy who died as a direct result of a motorcycle accident was originally categorized as a covid death (at least until knowledge of that went public) because he happened to test positive for the virus, too.

 

That's not good enough for you?

 

You being disingenuous is not good enough, no.

 

90% effective is more effective than most vaccines. Put me first in line.