Open Borders Dems Threaten U.S. Health Care System

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Our healthcare system is certainly challenged, but I think America will come through this hour of testing, Europe, I'm not so sure.

    REPLACE EUROPE WITH GLOBALISM: Europe Wasn’t Ready for Coronavirus. It May Never Fully Recover.

    Globalism, of the sort that assumes there are no real differences between cultures and that totalitarian regimes are as trustworthy as non-dictatorial regimes, is a luxury. It is the luxury of those so wealthy and pampered they can afford to ignore reality and live in make-believe. In centuries past it was the luxury of the very few and very wealthy. Briefly, for a shining moment in history, all of the West could afford to be that stupid.​

    No more. Perhaps never again.

    The very concept of the EU, like a lot of other ideas from the Left died of CV-19.

    Taking China at it's word, not closing borders when Trump did, were also deadly Left-wing ideas.

    It's starting to look like, unlike Epstein, that the Left may have hung itself.

    Globalism gone bust: Italians burn EU flag, vow to leave EU over EU’s lousy coronavirus response.
     
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  2. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Well, it looks like Trump's stellar response has saved thousands of lives, but, Biden would still like to crash our healthcare system with illegals.

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    Biden Gets Confused Again… Says He Wants to “Put Millions of Citizens on a Pathway to Citizenship”
     
  3. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What makes you think these people were "liberals"?

    President Trumps Mexico Border Wall is DEFINATELY getting built now and the Mexicans are going to PAY! and build it to Prevent Americans from trespassing into Mexico to escape the Covid 19 Epidemic in the USA. Liberals didn't get this excited about Border Security when Illegals from the Mexico, Hondurus, Guatamala and other places brought Measles with them when they Sneaked into the USA, why are they acting so Racist and Harsh against fellow US Citizens in their own Country.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...antine-out-towners-cutting-down-tree-n1171596
    Globalism is doing fine!

    In largely from Trump's efforts, holdouts like Mexico and other oil producing countries have banded to turn the largest oil cartel ever to jank up the prices of oil again, so regular people will be soon back febating wheather to get food or a tank of gas!

    The markets almost worked, but thanks to the multinational companies, backed up with Trump and his money buddies well shortly make American and other people across the world to feel the squeeze on our pocketbooks!

    Thanks, Trump! They probably couldn't have managed or monetary rape without you!
     
  4. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Really?

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    $76.40 p/b to $26.21 in a year and half is "squeezing our pocketbooks and monetary rape"?

    Further, dropping production by 10M b/d when there is an overhand of 32M b/d isn't even coping a feel, much less a "rape".

    And the price war continues with KSA continuing the price war:

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    to be fair, illegals pay taxes and never file returns, thus they pay a higher tax then Americans

    unless they are paid under the table by Americans
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, since Trump has worked hard to get a even larger international Cartel to be able to get prices back up to $70 so Trump's buddies, and all the other oil company Countries to drive Americans back up to their enormous prices!

    Another $10 cheaper would be even better - for regular Americans and everyone else around the world trying to feed their families!

    But this "problem" of low oil prices exposes the lies that the Trump and his Republican leaders have any problem with international orders - as long it is for oil company and the other billionaire pecking orders.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, and businesses like Trump hire illegals... both are wrong
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nixon threatened our healthcare system with his push for the low fat\high carb diet requirements he pushed on the people

    obesity, diabetes and other metabolic diseases are a direct cause of this republicans actions

    this is the number one threat to our healthcare system
     
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  9. Zorro

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    Really, Trump wants $70 p/b oil? Can you source that claim? I think someone sold you on a fabrication.

    The extraction of oil and natural gas from shale has reduced the amount of oil the United States needs to import and is adding to the economy in the forms of jobs, investment, and growth. Oil exploration and production is again an important industry in the United States.

    Over the past decade, the U.S. has begun producing more oil, decreasing our reliance on imports. As a result, new jobs have been created in the U.S., but oil exploration and extraction is expensive and highly capital-intensive.

    That also means that oil prices impact the domestic oil sector more directly, with jobs and profits linked to the price of oil. As consumers of oil, however, lower prices still benefit most consumers with cheaper gasoline and travel as well as lower prices of many manufactured goods.

    Higher prices per barrel of oil help justify the cost of a fracked well. The United States is once again one of the top producers of oil and gas. Greater domestic oil production is a net positive for the United States. However, as an oil-producing country (and not just an oil consumer), the United States now also feels an unpleasant pinch when oil prices drop.

    So what benefits the US Consumer can also hurt U.S. oil companies and affect domestic oil industry workers.

    As for your claim that Trump is manufacturing $70 p/b oil: WTI crashed below $20 (tagging $19.20) overnight after API reported huge inventory builds and was not helped by comments from the International Energy Agency that a historic production cut deal won’t be enough to counter a record demand slump this year.

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    Oil Supplies are building and as futures contracts roll over West Texas Intermediate crude for May delivery traded at more than $7 a barrel below its June contract on Tuesday, the deepest contango since 2009. The May contract is nearing expiration and exchange-traded funds, including the United States Oil Fund, have been selling front-month contracts and buying second-month futures.

    Do you want oil deflation so strong that prices go negative?

    Negative Oil Prices? They’re Already Here
    With demand evaporating and storage tanks filling up, some producers are paying customers to take their output.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...l-prices-are-already-here-as-storage-fills-up

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    Oil markets are in pain. Demand has plummeted, with about three billion people under lockdown just as the world faces a historic supply glut. The world’s crude storage, meanwhile, is filling fast, from underground caverns to rail cars and tankers. For landlocked producers, that really matters: Some are already paying customers to take their oil away.

    The consequences will be long-lasting. Drillers in the U.S. and elsewhere are scaling back or shutting down production. Against a background of steep spending cuts, not all of that will be swiftly reversible.

    This is a major issue for Land-Locked oil, which is an issue for the US. Helping this infrastructure float over this demand plunge makes $70 p/b oil after we are reopened LESS likely, than your approach, which is glee over oil becoming worthless until US oil producers are decimated, and then, in time, we are back complete reliance on foreign supplies.

    Landlocked drillers are facing a lack of local storage, and pipeline companies asking them to cut back or prove they have a buyer for their crude before loading. Refineries are cutting back as they reach storage limits.

    The global benchmarks for oil, West Texas Intermediate and Brent, have dropped about two-thirds this year. We are in the neighborhood of $20 a barrel and Trump agreeing to US production cuts of 250 k/b/d, when we already had to make these cuts because we are so flush with oil we can barely ship it!

    So all Trump did was agree to what we were already being forced to do because we are swimming in excess production due to the shut-down.

    For you to twist his perfectly sensible action into an international conspiracy against Americans is simply uninformed and hideous. Trump is the best friend that the US worker and consumer has had in the WH in our lifetimes. Don't fall for all this convoluted conspiracy crap when there is a perfectly rational explanation right in front of your nose.

    I demand that you publicly retract your slander of our fine President and wear the MAGA hat for two weeks.

    We are experiencing significantly worse storage conditions than expected with record breaking builds in crude and gasoline at Cushing.

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  10. Zorro

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    Well, since your post, oil is showing no indication that it's in immediate danger of shooting to $75/Barrel.

    Oil plunges 321% into negative territory for the first time ever as demand evaporates.​

    Trump agreed to a very minor cutback because he knew that with no storage capacity, that our producers were going to have to cut back anyway.
    • WTI crude oil futures expiring in May plunged 321%, to -$40.32 a barrel
    5 days after your claim, they briefly couldn't GIVE OIL away, they had to PAY others to take it off their hands!

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    https://markets.businessinsider.com...crude-oil-wti-falls-to-21-year-low-1029106364

    In light of this, do you think you should issue a retraction of your vicious smear of President Trump?
     
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    So, how confident are you on your call that Trump has deliberately steered the market back to $70/barrel?

    USO Oil ETF To Execute 1-For-8 Reverse Stock Split
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    USO shareholders on April 28, 2020 will receive one post-split share of USO for every eight pre-split shares of USO they hold

    With some predicting that oil could plunge negative per barrel, every day is now a scramble for survival for the largest oil ETF, the USO, which is desperate to avoid the liquidation that its smaller peer, the OIL ETN which was fully redeemed, succumbed to yesterday. And to survive, it will succumb to the lowest tricks in the book including puffing up its stock price using such cheap gimmicks as reverse stock splits.

    Details from the 8K on the lengths the fund is going to keep shares above zero:

    The reverse share split will reduce the number of USO’s shares outstanding and will result in a proportionate increase in the net asset value per share (“NAV”) of USO. As a result of the reverse share split, USO shareholders on April 28, 2020 will receive one post-split share of USO for every eight pre-split shares of USO they hold. Immediately after the reverse share split is effective, USO’s post-split shares will have an NAV that is eight times higher than that of pre-split shares.
     

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