Just a quick point here -- The Occupiers and the Tea-Party are really representative of the same force. They are both groups of people who are lashing out at the current power structure. They are angry at organized money in this nation, and how more and more power is funneling into fewer and fewer hands. There are only 2 real differences between these groups: 1. OWS protesters are angry at the private sector, whereas Tea-Party protesters are angry at the public sector. 2. OWS protesters are more filthy (dirty, un-clean, disorganized, etc) The occupiers are channeling their rage at the wall-street insiders and lobbyists who have filled the pockets of the politicians. The tea-partiers are channeling their rage at the politicians who have allowed their pockets to be filled by the private interests. We ought to be united and realize that the marriage between big money and big government is the problem, and they are not mutually exclusive. Of course, the media, who represents Big Money, is trying to paint a picture of OWS vs Tea-Party, because it is in their best interest for us to remain divided. Left vs Right, political theater. Don't buy it. I just hope that all of us outside of the power structure will stay cognizant of the fact that we are fighting the same battle, just on different fronts. Bump this if you agree, to increase consciousness of the false division that the media wishes to create.
good post. especially point number two. but really I don't know if there can be cooperation. OWS thinks that more regulation is the answer to stop the crony capitalism corrupt government problem. in no uncertain terms, less power for our corrupt government is the only thing that will make a difference.
I believe the lack organization is due to the fact the OWS movement does not have public/national personality organizing the movement. The Tea Party had Glenn Beck shoving bs and fear down their throats, and were able to organize much more effectively than hundreds of largely independent groups protesting.
Well, in OWS there are many opinions. That are more dirty and disorganized I consider it a bit offensive, well more than offensive a topic, but far from reality. OWS is a copy of the Spanish 15M, and it means that they are completely decentralized, no powers there. But it is curious how the organization in some points is far from some demands. It is, that the movement is organized in a horizontal form and 100% democratic. But looks that sometimes the demands are for a vertical organization, instead of trying to bring it to the institutions, it is referring to some sectors of OWS: although I know that many others want a reform of the government, to bring a organization closer to what we've seen in this camps, movement.
Not quite. The Tea Party had a divisive POTUS and Democrat congress bailing out GM and the UAW, an $800 billion dollar stimulus bill mainly directed to municipal unions around the country and political payoffs, and of course the partisan bill Obamacare.
The TEA Party protests called for reducing government and promoting fiscal responsibility. The folks who attended those rallies made their points effectively, legally and safely; while responsibly building lives and futures for themselves and their families. The occupiers on Wall Street are breaking laws and demanding greater government entitlements. They are squatting indefinitely in public parks and on private property creating unsafe and illegal conditions and the only intelligible message they seem to put out is "daddy Big Government: take from the other guy and give it to me." These folks aren't building anything, they're just dropouts demanding the rest of us carry them. No, these folks are not the same. The methods are entirely different and the messages are completely the opposite.
To the op: Notice where all the intransigence is coming from. It's not the media that is driving the polarization. In fact, except for bloggers with some axe to grind, the msm has not bothered to conflate the two movements or try to pit them against each other. But the reactionary right has spent too much time and energy demonizing the unions, liberals, the poor and young people who make up the majority of ows protesters to even consider the wisdom of your words.
I agree 100% with the OP and have been saying the same things myself. What I've learned from the responses is that some people would rather listen to the propaganda machine and hang onto to the old us vs them/left vs right paradigm instead of realizing the us vs them is actually we the people against a corrupt system. It won't change unless all the people quit squabbling among ourselves and UNITE to direct our ire towards the government/corporate alliance that is screwing we the people; left, right, Democrat, Republican, progressive, libertarian, all of us who don't have the money to buy the Congress and president.
Wrong. OWS, is a copy of the Spanish 15M, and the 15M like the rest of movements following this philosophy, Italy, Portugal, France, Great Britain, Belgium, USA, Korea... are organized by people, and only people, independent from other organizations. Yes, there can be people that are in other organizations, but they go individually to these acts, not as organization.
TEA party members are respectful of Americas land, our citizens and our freedoms through our Constitution. The OWS protesters have no respect for anyone! Not the citizens, nor the property given for their protests and obviously hate the Constitution. Their voices don't cheer for reigning back the federal government but instead giving them more control. If they were truly serious about merging the two, they should consider protesting at Immelt, Bernanke and Geithners home, along with Washington itself. It owuld aleast give the semblance of common ground.
OWS was organized from day one by SEIU and AFL/CIO. As are most anti-capitalist protests worldwide. The majority of the protesters are young and idealistic, not very intelligent, and most likely have a degree in gender studies or education.
Proofs about that. Because that is not true, for the information that I have about this movement. I've been in all this from a long time ago, and mainly from the beginning of this year, before the OWS even being thought in USA. The movement is using what we did in Spain. The movement is using the same style of working, and in Spain we organized ourselves without any intervention of any organization. And the OWS is the same idea, and the same organization.
You left one out. 3. OWS protesters are violent, whereas Tea Party protesters are civil. People don't get arrested at Tea Party rallies. Arrests are made constantly at OWS protests.
What are you talking about? Sure, the pundits fanned the flames, but these Tea Parties just sort of started by chance. The OWS movement was started by the magazine AdBusters, which is owned by the Tides Foundation, which is owned by George Soros.
Glen Beck was a Johnny come lately to the Tea Party. He didn't organize it, he jumped aboard long after it left the station.
That's because they're staging a revolution, and like every other stupid liberal protest, they are trying to cause a "movement", because they like knowing that they aren't alone, because they have to get into groups and think in order to make up their minds. It is impressive that the movement has spread like this, especially world wide, but people protest all the time in Europe and they're also all pinkos over there so it doesn't impress me. I guess the revolts in Asia are a bit impressive, but other than that it's just an anti-business, dirty, violent Tea Party.
