Palestinian Sheikh : We Need a Caliph with His Finger on a Nuclear Button, Like Kim Jong-un

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    The map makes perfect sense. The Palestinians Arabs outnumbered the Jews in Israel by more than 7 to 3 in 1946. That's why they Jews decimated the Arab community through ethnic cleansing to make that Jew state happen.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...h-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Too bad the Palestinians joined their Arab neighbors in seeking to destroy Israel. By doing so, they left their homes and their lands thus legally vacating them. Asking for them back is as silly as the defeated Germans asking the French for all their tanks and artillery they left behind in Paris to be returned.

    Now, 70 years later, the peaceful Palestinians who had left Israel have moved on to build homes in other countries. The ones who stayed to fight Israel have become a death cult of suicide bombers who believe killing one or more innocent Jews and dying in the process makes them Martyrs. One reason the US cut funding to the Palestinians was because they were rewarding "martyr" families with cash, thus giving a monetary incentive for suicide bombers. It's deplorable that Palestinians are rewarded for stabbing a 13 year old girl sleeping in her bed. Terrorists and their supporters must be stopped. Giving them a nuke would be MAD in more ways than the acronym.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...alestinian-incentive-program-for-killing-jews
    The Palestinian Incentive Program for Killing Jews
    Whoever said crime doesn't pay hasn't talked to the family of a Palestinian terrorist. For the Palestine Liberation Organization and the related Palestinian Authority, the killers of Jewish Israelis are considered "martyrs." And as such, their families are paid for the service these murderers have done for the Palestinian cause.

    This has come to light this week after a Palestinian, Mohammed Tarayra, stabbed Hallel Yaffa Ariel, a 13-year-old Israeli girl, as she was sleeping in her bed. The stabbing was part of a wave of attacks by Palestinians who have for nearly eight months been shooting, stabbing and running down Jews with the encouragement of social media and popular songs
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    https://unitedwithisrael.org/netanyahu-to-see-the-blood-stains-on-her-bed-is-shocking/

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    The Jews ethnic cleansed the civilian population. Even Israel intelligence says it is so. And that is besides that there is no such thing than when you leave your home that you "legally vacated" it for the next person to move in.


    She was a human shield of israeli's living illegally across the border on land thieved from Arabs. If you don't like this crap going on, than their parents should have stuck to their side of the border.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Palestinian Death Cult would die off if people stopped funding terrorist attacks. Thankfully, the US has wisely chosen to stop funding the genocide of the Jews at the hands of Palestinian terrorists. If the Palestinian terrorists do not stop, we should encourage the UN to send in troops to neutralize them.

    http://thehill.com/opinion/internat...ling-the-funding-from-palestinian-pay-to-slay

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    In an unusual display of bipartisanship, the U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed The Taylor Force Act, a bill to reduce U.S. funding for the Palestinians unless official bodies stop subsidizing the families of killers.

    Co-sponsored by Lindsay Graham, Dan Coats and Roy Blunt, The Taylor Force Act was named in honor of Taylor Force, a West Point graduate who had served tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan, and was stabbed to death while with a Vanderbilt University tour group in Israel. By any stretch of the imagination, the stipends offered for such killings lavish incentives to commit violence.

    The Palestinian Authority (PA) argues cynically that such payments relieve poverty. Alas, they do. However, they do so at the price of murders. Would passage of the Taylor Force Act halt or add to terrorist activities? The answer is obvious. Eliminating the incentive for terrorism will reduce its presence. Clearly pathologies of the kind the world has experienced from the Middle East won’t disappear, but the Taylor Force Act is a mitigating influence in the right direction.


    Since the 1993 Oslo Accords, the U.S. has permitted the two key Palestinian organizations — the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)and the PA — to get away with murder or, at least, with honoring murder. It is time for this scandalous behavior to end.


    At the moment, terrorists who murder are honored with street names. In fact, the more egregious the crime, the more you get paid. Campsites, schools, clinics are named after so-called martyrs who kill innocent Jews.


    This is arguably the most barbaric government policy on the globe since the crime of murder is endorsed by officials and U.S. taxpayers are partially responsible for underwriting the crime.
     
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    It's deplorable to justify the murder of a 13 year old girl sleeping in her bed as politically correct.
     
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    As I noted. If people don't like it, than the girl should have been on her side of the border. Her parents out of their own free will used her as a human shield on fresh ethnically cleansed land where international law dictates that they may not be there. People who profit from ethnic cleansing simply got it all coming. That can not be condoned one bit. Paying the highest price for it is justified.
     
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    I'm shocked and dismayed that you believe it's justified that a man is paid to break into a little girl's room and murder her in her sleep regardless of the circumstances.

    This same attitude among the Palestinians is why the UN should neutralize all terrorists and little girl murders, if not rapists.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/30/13-year-old-israeli-girl-stabbed-to-death-in-her-bedroom/
    The killing of a child rocked Israel and threatens to bring about a new escalation in violence after several weeks of relative calm in the region.

    The attack was condemned by governments around the world.
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    ...The killer, identified by Palestinian authorities as Mohammad Tra'ayra, a 19-year-old from a nearby village, entered Kiryat Arba early on Thursday and broke into the Ariels' house.

    He killed Hallel in her bed and photographs released by the Israeli military showed blood stained across the floor and mattress in the child's room.

    “She was stabbed many, many times. Mostly in her back,” said a doctor...

    ...."There can be no possible justification for murder of a 13-year-old girl in her bed," said Mr Quarrey.

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    Condemn today's horrific terrorist attack. Can be no possible justification for murder of 13 year old girl in her bed.

    3:46 AM - Jun 30, 2016

    The US State Department called it an "unconscionable terrorist attack".


    This was, indeed, an "unconscionable terrorist attack" which, as civilized government leaders have clearly stated, cannot be justified. The world should join together in neutralizing all terrorists and their supporters. After all, the people who give reward terrorists for murdering little girls are as guilty of terrorism as those who actually stab those little girls in their beds.
     
  8. Max Rockatansky

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    I respectfully disagree with your support and justification of murdering a 13 year old girl regardless of the circumstances.

    #IslamicJihad, #assassination, #PLO, #Terrorists
     
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    Pff you pretend circumstances don't matter because it fits your agenda.
    Fact is that circumstances matter. Do note: Israel kills far more and far children.

    #israelapartheidstate #israelethniccleanses #israelterroriststate
     
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    With the threat of ISIS diminishing, time to eradicate one of the last vestiges of terrorism: the Palestinian Authority.

    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/How-to-end-the-Palestinian-Authoritys-pay-for-slay-laws-483308
    ...In fact, murdering Israelis and Americans is lucrative business for Palestinian terrorists and their families; terrorists are paid monthly “salaries” as high as $3,429 while in prison. When released, they receive as much as $25,000 in reward money and often become PA civil service employees. In Qaisiya’s case, if he was married, his family will receive a $368 monthly stipend in perpetuity, and additional funding depending on the number of children he had.

    Even more mind-boggling is that not only do Americans unwittingly pay these stipends with their taxes, they are codified in Palestinian law.

    US legislators are trying to do away with these US-funded “pay-for-slay” policies which, in 2016 alone, enabled the PA , together with the PLO , to pay out $300 million in US funding to terrorists and their families. The PA and the PLO delivered roughly the same amounts in 2014 and 2015, according to a recent study published by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs.

    ....“The Palestinian Authority’s use of its resources to provide material support for terrorism – indiscriminately targeted at American and Israeli civilians – is a grotesque example of how well-intentioned US generosity can be turned against us,” a senior White House official told The Washington Free Beacon
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    Time we took the money the Palestinians are using to pay off terrorists and use them for cruise missiles aimed at the Palestinian leadership.
     
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    I doubt the NSA or other global anti-terrorist agencies will be interested in those hashtags.
     
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    Impressive rebuttal.
    All nonsense from "legally vacating" to cry crocodile tears over Jews paying the high price for using their children as human shields across their own border.
     
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    The US funds Jewish state to ethnic cleanse Arabs. They pay billions a year to keep the "good work" going. 10% of the Jews living on ethnic cleansed land across Israeli border are American citizens. It's all crocodile tears when their human shields get killed. They freely chose to have a crosshairs on their heads by being there.
     
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    Glad you liked it. Still, it's the NSAs and other international anti-terrorism agencies responsibility to check all potential terrorists and supporters, even if those supporters on solely politically or monetarily. As the previous articles I posted proved, the Palestinian Authority has used money from charities and western nations, including the US, to fund terrorism. This, of course, is unacceptable and must be stopped.

    #Islamicterrorism, #Palestinianterrorism, #IslamicJihad


    https://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=1005
    PA salaries to terrorists and their families
    In April 2011, the Palestinian Authority Registry published a Government Resolution granting all Palestinian prisoners imprisoned in Israel for security and terror-related offenses a monthly salary from the PA (Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, April 15, 2011). This new resolution, called PA Government Resolution of 2010, numbers 21 and 23, formalized what has long been a PA practice.

    The PA defined which Palestinians would be considered "prisoners": "Anyone imprisoned in the occupation's [Israel's] prisons as a result of his participation in the struggle against the occupation" (Ch. 1 of Law of Prisoners, 2004/19, www.alasra.ps, accessed May 9, 2011)

    According to the PA definition, more than 4,500 Palestinian prisoners (as of December 2012) serving time for terror-related offenses are recipients of PA salaries. This means that Palestinians convicted of crimes such as theft do not receive a salary, but Hamas and Fatah terrorist murderers do.

    These monthly payments to prisoners are paid from the PA’s general budget and income taxes are paid, as is the case with all other PA salaries (Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, June 19, 2011). According to the language of the PA regulation as well as PA economic reports on government salaries, the monthly salaries to prisoners range from 1,400 shekels to 12,000 shekels. The PA economic report listed the prisoners’ salaries as part of the PA general salary budget, which includes civil servants, military personnel and others. (Life and the Market, supplement to Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, June 19, 2011). It was not listed as a social service payment.

    The PA’s general budget and salary budget is funded by numerous donor countries. Since 2011, PMW has been documenting that international donors' aid money given for salaries and to the PA general budget pays the salaries of Palestinian terrorists imprisoned in Israel. This is in violation of the letter or spirit of the laws of the funding countries.

    Responding to queries from donor countries following PMW reports, the PA told the donor countries that they changed the wording of the law from “salaries” – “ratib”- to “assistance” – “i’ana.” British Minister of State stated in a letter that “we have discussed these issues with the PA at the highest levels” and “the PA has now changed the wording in the Cabinet Decision to unambiguously refer to the payment as assistance – i’ana.’” (Letter from Minister of State Alan Duncan to MP Mike Freer, see report here) However, the PA immediately contradicted what Duncan had claimed, calling it a rumor:

    “[Minister of Prisoners’ Affairs Issa] Karake denies rumors about changing salaries (Arabic: rawatib) into social assistance (Arabic: i'anat ijtima'iya)…” [WAFA (the official Palestinian Authority news agency), Dec. 27, 2012]

    This was likewise corroborated by Prisoners' Club Chairman Qadura Fares, when he announced that the PA had finalized a final version of the law “which considers payments made to prisoners 'salaries,' (Arabic: ratib) to which no other term applies.” [Al-Quds Internet edition, Dec. 27, 2012]

    In August 2014, the PA implemented another ruse to evade pressure from international ‎donors. The PA closed the PA Ministry of Prisoners’ Affairs and announced the ‎establishment of a new PLO Commission of Prisoners’ Affairs, which they claimed ‎would pay the salaries. ‎

    However, the PLO Commission was new only in name. The PLO body would have the ‎same responsibilities and pay the exact same amounts of salaries to prisoners; the ‎former PA Minister of Prisoners’ Affairs, Issa Karake, became the Director of the new ‎PLO Commission and PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas retained overall supervision of ‎the PLO Commission. [PNN Palestine News Network (independent Palestinian news agency), Aug. 29, 2014] [Ayjal radio (independent Palestinian station), Aug. 30, 2014] [Official PA TV, May 9, 2015]

    Nevertheless, many international donors accepted PA assurances that the PA was no ‎longer paying the salaries to terrorist prisoners. For instance, the Dutch government ‎made this statement in April 2015: ‎

    ‎“The responsibility for payments to prisoners was transferred to the PLO and will ‎no longer be charged to the budget of the PA, and these [payments to prisoners] ‎are not funded by PA tax revenues or donor funds. The PLO pays such costs ‎from their own income, where the Cabinet has no access.” [Question and ‎Answer session, Dutch Ministry of Foreign Affairs, April 22, 2015] ‎

    Ample evidence contradicts the PA assurances to the Dutch and other donors. These ‎findings are based entirely on information supplied by the PA: ‎

    ‎- In January 2015, the PA Ministry of Finance announced that the PA budget includes ‎transfer of salaries to prisoners in Israeli jails who were from Gaza. [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, ‎Jan. 6, 2015] This openly contradicts the PA claim that the PA no longer pays salaries ‎to prisoners.‎

    ‎- When Israel withheld PA tax income in the first months of 2015, the PA announced ‎that prisoners receiving up to 2,000 shekels in salary a month would continue to ‎receive their full salary and those receiving more than 2,000 shekels would only ‎receive 60% of their salary -- the same reduction that was imposed on civil servants. ‎‎[Wattan News Agency, March 5, 2015] Were the PLO paying salaries from Arab donor ‎money and not the PA, Israel's holding up PA money would have no impact on terrorist ‎prisoners’ salaries. Clearly, it is still PA money paying terrorist prisoners’ salaries.‎

    To view all PMW reports on PA salaries to terrorist prisoners, click here.
     
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    The only terrorists are the Jews doing the ethnic cleansing across the border of Israel to expand their Jew apartheid state. Dunno what you on about.
     
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    You already explained above how you support the stabbing of a 13 year old girl in her bed as justified because she wasn't on "her side of the border" and how she had it coming and I disagreed. I fail to see how you do not understand our conversation. Going back to the OP, any culture which believes murdering 13 year old girls in their beds are too crazy to have nukes.

     
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    Her community got it coming because they used her as a human shield on ethnic cleansed land across the border, where they were all living their against UNSC resolutions, against international law, against the Geneva Conventions. She would have been fine if those Jews complied with all of that. But they freely chose to breach it. I have yet to see you argue against all of that, instead of nitpicking on this.
     
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    Yeah, ... uhm, ... about those settlements and your affinity for UNSC resolutions, international law, and the Geneva Conventions:

    · Roberts, Adam. "Prolonged Military Occupation: The Israeli-Occupied Territories Since 1967". The American Journal of International Law. American Society of International Law. 84 (1): 85–86. doi:10.2307/2203016. The international community has taken a critical view of both deportations and settlements as being contrary to international law. General Assembly resolutions have condemned the deportations since 1969, and have done so by overwhelming majorities in recent years. Likewise, they have consistently deplored the establishment of settlements, and have done so by overwhelming majorities throughout the period (since the end of 1976) of the rapid expansion in their numbers. The Security Council has also been critical of deportations and settlements; and other bodies have viewed them as an obstacle to peace, and illegal under international law.


    · Pertile, Marco (2005). "'Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory': A Missed Opportunity for International Humanitarian Law?". In Conforti, Benedetto; Bravo, Luigi. The Italian Yearbook of International Law. 14. Martinus Nijhoff Publishers. p. 141. ISBN 978-90-04-15027-0. the establishment of the Israeli settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory has been considered illegal by the international community and by the majority of legal scholars.


    · Barak-Erez, Daphne (2006). "Israel: The security barrier—between international law, constitutional law, and domestic judicial review". International Journal of Constitutional Law. Oxford University Press. 4 (3): 548. doi:10.1093/icon/mol021. The real controversy hovering over all the litigation on the security barrier concerns the fate of the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories. Since 1967, Israel has allowed and even encouraged its citizens to live in the new settlements established in the territories, motivated by religious and national sentiments attached to the history of the Jewish nation in the land of Israel. This policy has also been justified in terms of security interests, taking into consideration the dangerous geographic circumstances of Israel before 1967 (where Israeli areas on the Mediterranean coast were potentially threatened by Jordanian control of the West Bank ridge). The international community, for its part, has viewed this policy as patently illegal, based on the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention that prohibit moving populations to or from territories under occupation.


    · Drew, Catriona (1997). "Self-determination and population transfer". In Bowen, Stephen. Human rights, self-determination and political change in the occupied Palestinian territories. International studies in human rights. 52. Martinus Nijhoff Publishers. pp. 151–152. ISBN 978-90-411-0502-8. It can thus clearly be concluded that the transfer of Israeli settlers into the occupied territories violates not only the laws of belligerent occupation but the Palestinian right of self-determination under international law. The question remains, however, whether this is of any practical value. In other words, given the view of the international community that the Israeli settlements are illegal under the law if belligerent occupation …


    · International Labour Organization (2005). "The situation of workers of the occupied Arab territories" (PDF). p. 14. The international community considers Israeli settlements within the occupied territories illegal and in breach of, inter alia, United Nations Security Council resolution 465 of 1 March 1980 calling on Israel "to dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law_and_Israeli_settlements#cite_ref-1


    • Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015
    • Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world
    • Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan
    Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

    The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

    Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

    The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.
     
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    now that is funny. I doubt that was your intent, but its funny nonetheless.
     
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    You've made it pretty clear that you think what Israel is doing is funny.
     

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