Palestinian terror in the holy city Jerusalem.

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Lol @poles.

    I'm guessing you're related....
     
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    I have absolutely no idea what you just said. Are you asking me if I am Polish? No, I'm not.
     
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    lol. Ok. It's just the polish and kick ass analogy made me chuckle.
     
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    Only noting that it was religious adhesion in both circumstances that gave the US a bloody nose. And before you ask .... the answer is no, I am not related to any religious entity either.
     
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    This map is fraudulent. The first map shows Arab private land AND state-owned land, as if it is all Arab land.
     
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    American adherence to Christian principles has always been suspect and it's downfall, which is why black folk decided to make their own churches. Those evangelical billionaires would be comedy gold if not so tragic.
     
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    WRONG.

    At no time was all of Palestine ever an "Arab state".

    Most of that land in the image is State land, belonging to the govt of Mandatory Palestine, under British and UN control.
     
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    Don't get me started on American evangelical madness. Their parishioners must be the most brainless dupes the world has ever seen.
     
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    The Arabs helped the British defeat the Ottomans, so clearly they saw the Ottomans as Turkish foreign occupiers.
     
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    Exactly - the Arabs are merely exercising their god-given right to stand their ground in their own country and they accomplished great peace agreement all over the world. Great peace in the latest war in Syria, great peace in Libya, great peace in Yemen, great peace Sudan, great peace in Liban – please forgive me if I omitted some.
    And Palestinian peace plan is the best – here is description of an old Hamas chapter:

    “The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, 'O Muslim, O servant of God, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.' Only the Gharkad tree would not do that, because it is one of the trees of the Jews.”.

    As first step to the Middle East peace Israel needs to get rid of all Gharkad trees!
     
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    Exactly – for some people it is is impossible to separate Zionism from Nazism. Alawites Arabs murdered over 300 thousand Arabs? It is no Nazism!

    For some people it is impossible to separate Zionism from Apartheid. Arabs didn’t accepted expelled Palestinians as their citizens and discriminated against then and kept them in refugees camps? When Arabs discriminate Palestinians it is not Apartheid.

    For some people it is impossible to separate Zionism from Ethnic Cleansing. When Sudanese Arabs murdered and expelled Blacks from Darfur – it was not Ethnic Cleansing.

    For some people it is impossible to separate Zionism from Racism. When Arabs in Iraq murdered and enslave Yazidis – it was not Racism, that same as persecutions of Copts in Egypt is not Racism.

    Arabs almost always love-love-love-love Sunni Muslims, Shiite Muslims, Christians, Blacks, Jews, and Europeans.
     
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    If you think of the Palestinians or the Arabs & Moslems in general as war-mongering terrorists then by way of justice you must also recognize the terrorism that has been perpetrated upon them as well. My input here is specifically in regard to the treachery that has been meted out to the Palestinians by Zionism and its supporters. Your only message is “hate the Arabs/Moslems”. The Palestinians have a legitimate gripe against the land-grabbing terrorist Zionists but you refuse to admit it. My input has peace as its goal. Your goal is just more hate.
     
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    Let me tell you what I think – correct me if I am wrong:

    1. In the last 100 years Arabs killed/expelled more Arabs and not Arabs then Jews killed/expelled Arabs.
    2. Arabs in Israel have more rights than Arabs in Arab countries.
    3. Yes, there is illegal discrimination of Arabs in Israel, more or less as Blacks are illegally discriminated in the US.
    4. In 2004 Israel gave Gaza citizens freedom – freedom to work in Israel, freedom to democratically elect government and freedom to develop Gaza. What Gazean people decided? To develop rockets against Israel, to build underground tunnels to attack Israel, to send suicide bombers to Israel. This is Gazean people thank Israel for provide them with medical help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafa_al_Bass
    5. Somehow many people always accuse Israel racism, Nazism and Apartheid, keeping not mentioning the Palestinian terror. Like in this joke:
     
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    The Israeli regime in Area C of the West Bank is indeed an Apartheid regime. One rule for Arabs, another rule for Israelis. Blatant discrimination and double standards.
     
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    Actually - not. Area C is territory occupied by Israel. In any occupied territory you have a different rules for natives and different rules for citizens of occupier. If you define occupied territory as Apartheid - then yes, WWII winners created Apartheid in Germany and Austria, Serbs and Croats created Apartheid in territory they conquered, Americans created Apartheid in Japan after WWII etc.
    The reason many people call Area C an Apartheid is the same reason why many people are convinced that Jews are Nazis, communist or racists. Look what recently happened in Syria - Israel actually helped some Syrian refugees - did anyone call Syrian Alawites racists or Nazis?
     
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    1). The Zionists have stolen Palestinian land.
    2). The Palestinians have a natural right to get it back or take it back.

    You can cry about "Palestinian terror in the holy city Jerusalem" if you want but Jewish terror in the holy city Jerusalem is the root of the problem and I'm here to tell you that.
     
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    Well, I see you didn't correct me - it means I was right. Now let me correct you:
    Zionists didn't steal Palestinian land. First Palestine was occupied by the Ottoman Empire, later Palestine was occupied by Great Britain. UN declared that the territory which was occupied by England will be divided by Jewish and Arab territory. Jews accepted UN decision, Arabs didn't. After Israel was proclaimed, Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and expeditionary forces from Iraq attacked Israel. Israel won, and conquered more territories that UN designed for Jews. It is convention in our world that aggressor who is losing the war will lose some territories - for example this happened to Germany, which lost territories to Poland and Czechoslovakia.

    There is no such think like "natural right to get back lost territories". Germany didn't get back lost territories, Mexico and Native Americans didn't get lost territories, Serbia didn't get back lost territories, India didn't get back lost territories and more.
    So my question is - why Palestinians have some 'natural rights' which other nations don't have?
     
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    No, it means that I'm not going to waste time with quagmires (intentional or inherited) and smoke screens. I stated the most important fact without sugar, topping, or embellishment. If you don't understand that then I see no reason to thrust and parry the side notes.
     
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    You were quite clear, the WJE stole land and are currently fighting a civil war trying to hold on to it. It's not rocket science.
     
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    I agree. This thread, "Palestinian terror in the holy city Jerusalem" is meant to highlight terror-oriented deeds by Palestinians. There's nothing wrong with pointing it out but it goes beyond that and into false narratives making it wrongly seem that the Palestinians came from nowhere, single-handedly inventing terrorism, and having nothing in their hearts but murder mayhem against an innocent "nation" governed by peace-loving neighbours. But the facts and truth are very far away from all of that.

    The Palestinians have every right to re-establish themselves and their country. It is unfortunate that negotiations with the Zionists have come to naught and the only Israeli politician with a vision of Middle East peace was assassinated by the Zionists themselves. The acts reflected in the OP are not pre-emptive strikes but the consequence of Zionist terrorism initiated by the Zionists. The Palestinians are fighting back with the only tools available to them, even with nothing but Intifadian rocks if that's all they've got. :boxing:
     
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    Perfect answer! When I feel I lost arguments in discussion and cannot give a logical response, I too refuse to answer questions claiming that I don't want to waste my precious time on such unserious, misleading, untrue questions! :applause: :applause: :applause:
     
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    That's not a peace plan, its anti-Semitism.
     
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    Killing all Jews, is not a peace plan.
     
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