Paris is a shithole

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  1. k995

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    I can tell you are a Muslim with a typical superiority complex from a million miles away.

    That only proves Islam is a hypocritical power hungry religion which doesn't strictly follow it's rules.

    You are nobody to prove you something. I just made my statement. Everybody has to decide forthemselves.
     
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    Yes, put the blame on me, you're still unable to justify your claim.

    You're just plenty racist, all asians aren't chinese. I don't know if they mixed middle eastern, indian and far east people in their groups. The poll is from 10 years ago, it doesn't change my assessment, they fear arabic people too. Furthermore, this is from 10 years ago, the situation changed a lot since.

    Because different groups aren't made to mix. That can sometimes happen. But on a large scale, it doesn't happen. Their place is with their owns, not the gauls. Try as much to mix oil and water, it won't happen.

    Not really, I'm showing that discriminations happen around the world and that the one in France are still soft. You're complaining of discriminations in France as if it was something exceptionnal or strange, it isn't.

    My claim was :
    Then you claimed that what I said is illegal, so go on prove it.
    Was I collecting data based on religion or ethnicity ? No. So you failed to prove that my claim isn't legal according to french law. I already mentionned that it's illegal, but you're bringing back this law on a total irrelevant way. The fact you need to quote a british article says a lot about your knowledge of France. A british can't understand french culture, and the opposite is as true.
    It's always funny to see British trying to give lessons on how to deal with ethnic minorities when they're themselves full failure on this point.

    Oh, thank you, I absolutely needed you to quote as an example a country full of racial resentments and tensions. I like the US but I rarely saw countries with a more creepy relation to their colour of skin.
    What's the next step, you want to quote Brazil as a model for security ?
     
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    France may be a victim of its own, somewhat excessive and maudlin humanism. That said, their sense of life being for living rather than for mere materialistic gain is much more developed than that of their big cousin across the pond. America could learn from its longest running ally.
     
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    Nope. My sources proves you wrong. You don't get it or all your claims are fake news.
     
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    Indeed. You said "but enough socialcare to no be dirty poor."
    The poor get like 650 euro's a month. I have yet to see that they get enough social care to move.

    Ah. More personal attacks when proven wrong. I never said all Asians are Chinese. And when 1.5% of the population is Asian, and a part of that is Chinese... in no way is such a small group able to discriminate Muslims on such a large scale.

    They're just racist. When they lock those people up in nazi death camps. When it takes until.... TODAY... to admit they systematically tortured people to death..... yup.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...issident-maurice-audin-in-algeria-says-macron

    Any modern western nation, through a democratic proces / majority rule, have found this all criminal.
    You're just venting your fascist doctrine.

    They are legally in France. They got French citizenship.

    Pff. Them far right nazi's who want minorities to leave, something you support, are a tiny minority themselves.
    Don't make me laugh.
     
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    More like 750 euros, more if you have children. That's already a lot.

    Where did I claimed that the chinese were discriminating muslims on a large scale ? I said there were afraid of arabs.

    Prove it. 82 % of french people went to vote against JM Le Pen in 2002 because he was supposed racist, 64 % against his daughter in 2017.

    Yes, the whole french nation waked up and says "let's lock up some people in nazi death camps". Furthermore, you keep whining about that, but I already sourced that 1) A lot of nazis camps were used back for diverse uses (housing, barracks) 2) A lot of them got HLM housing as soon than 1974/

    Maurice Audin was a gaul, not an arab. So it's not the concern of your topic. People were tortured to death, and ? You just discovered that the joke of democratic nations are pretty nasty ? What's the next step ? You will explain me that the sky is blue ?
    French people doesn't trust their leaders, and it's old.
    http://www.lefigaro.fr/politique/20...nce-se-degrade-nettement-selon-le-cevipof.php
    At best you prove that white people are evil, and so we shouldn't be monsters and force arabic people to coexist with such flesh eaters.

    You speak of the nations you hate because some of them were part of the war in Iraq ? Or sell weapons ? Since when you consider western nations as an example ? Hypocrite double standarts.
    Anyway, you have to prove that modern western nations are an example.
    You never claimed your source about fascism.

    There illegitimate laws. French citizenship is just a bunch of legal papers, it doesn't mean anything but from an administrative point.

    It's totally unrelated to the topic, but there is no way you will make me believe that the US is a harmonious multiethnic nation. It's even a big fat failure on this point.
     
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    I speak of legitimity, not laws. As if anyway I would recognize any legitimity to this joke of a democracy of regime, ruled by whores nominated by their oligarchs friends.
     
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    You Muslims think you are so bright, don't you?
    See, that's the main problem with Islam - it boosts the Ego.
     
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    Well, thats a bright strategy to counter islamization-by teaching Arabic in schools...
     
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    This says a lot about how you see all Muslims.
     
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    Because learning arab makes you muslim?
     
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    Considering your picture, lol, you must be one, too!
     
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    No, but the objective is clearly to teach arabic language for religious reason which is clearly a violation of secularism.
    Furthermore, we, french people, have already enough difficulties to speak english, we don't need to waste money and efforts for the caprices of a religious minority.
     
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    But for how much longer will Islam be a religious minority, that's the question. How long before all your famous 'Academies' become Madrassas?
     
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    The koran has been long translated in french, arab is a regular langauge so no its not.

    There are enough studies out there that show its benefitial for student and society.

    I agree its a touchy and difficult subject but dismissing it out of hand as "religious zealots" isnt correct.
     
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    If you actually take my Avi picture seriously, you must be one.....think about it.
     
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    Rather nuke ourselves.

    Even with that, arabic stay the liturgical language of Islam. Many prayers, even in France are made in arabic, the shahadah is said in arabic.
    Arabic have the same place than latin for the catholic church before Vatican 2.

    If you speak of learning languages yes. But we struggle already enough with our english. The system didn't changed a lot since I was in middle school/high school. You start to learn very basic english between 6 and 10, then when you enter middle school, serious things start, you start to learn english in a more serious. You have 3 or 4 hours of courses by week, which is not enough. Then, when you're around 12/13 YO, you can pick another language (we speak of LV1 and LV2, LV is = langue vivante, living language) . It may be arabic even if few middle schools have arabic teachers. It's most of the time spanish or german, Italian can be often picken too, it depend of the school.
    I would not be shocked that arabic could be teached as a LV2. From an article I red and that I unfortunately can't find back, it was suggested to teach this language before, and not as a regular LV2.

    French people however are mistaken if they think they can fight salafism and that kind of ideology by negociating or making gifts. Bring back the guillotine, execute people which helped the terrorist or who came back from Syria, execute a bunch of ultra violent thugs, and start to bring back the fear of justice in the heart of people.
     
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    Also in french so it doesnt really matter. Actually the reveerse if they know arab they might catch preacher that is spewing BS translations .

    It really doesnt matter for their religion.


    Whats next throw people we think are islamists from buildings?
     
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    You're assuming that the violent interpretations of Islam are based on BS translations. There were a lot of foreign Saudi and Tunisian fighters in ISIS, both of t

    No, just start with the one which worked with ISIS and a good old rope is enough. Even if the national know-how should be honoured, this guys seems to appreciate beheading anyway.
     
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    No, I dont think those are mistranslations just like the bible it contains a lot of violence and calls to violence.

    I am talking about further interpretations that happen to justify certain regimes like IS.


    I thinkour justice system is more then capable of handling this, no need to turn to ISIS style punishment.
     
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    You red the quran ?
    Quran, Surate 9, Verse 5 :
    And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
    By the way, repent mean "convert". Polytheist is often translate as "associators", it's to associate to divinity something else than Allah, worshipping someone else than Allah.

    Quran, Surate 47, Verse 35 :
    So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds.

    An interesting fact about the Surate 9 is that it's the last complete Surate told by Muhammed. There is a last one but it's onl three or four verses. That's the pinnacle of islamic religion. The usual excuse told by muslims is that there is a magical context that turn everything. The Quran is supposed to be the word of god, apparently their god is omnipotent but unable to express himself clearly.

    ISIS have a very litteral, contextless reading of the quran but there interpretations of the quran isn't strange or mad, it just do what their god says to do.

    We could too says a lot about hadith, that justify for instance that many islamic countries sentence to death people leaving Islam.

    Justice system unable to prevent a tragedy like the 13th november 2015. Prisons are overloaded and I have no confidence in this "justice". People leave prison not because they're not dangerous anymore, just because they need some place. It's a judicial system based on rentability, not protecting people.
     
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    No one knew the French would take the concept for stand and deliver toilets to a city scale.
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    A shock to many a English school child on their first visit to France in the 80's ;)
     
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