Part 32 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Questerr

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    If God is omniscient, no free will exists and God decided who would be good and evil arbitrarily before the universe was created.
     
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    Great point to use when arguing against your position. Obviously a man did not stay alive inside of a fish for three days....thus the bible is inaccurate and God does not exist.
     
  3. WanRen

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    If you like to view it that way just like your claim that cannibalism is not real that is your free will that is why we are here to make sure truth is shared.


    Changing or falsifying the Words of God is being dishonest.

    The only errors are from anti Christians, anti God people who for what ever reason no amount of facts, truth or evidences they still insist the world is flat :(
     
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    God greatest gift to us is free will and human intelligence it is up to you to chose your path the good or the evil path the universe created in such magnificent order that there is no way that atheist can prove that the universe created itself.
     
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    But the man did stayed alive inside the giant fist for three days thus the Bible is accurate in its account. God's existence is beyond reasonable doubt God is part and parcel of human evolution, history and continued progression to the future.
     
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    Like claiming Barabbas was a "rapist"....when there is NOTHING in the Bible saying that???


    Sep 16 2014, 11:10 AM #727

    WanRen-

    "The Bible, science, history are the strongest evidence of facts presented.

    When Pontius Pilate presented to the crowd two men Jesus Christ a Holy man and Barabas a criminal, rapist,..."


    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ough-questions-regarding-christianity-73.html


    BTW, MittRyan Liked this post...despite the fact it contained a LIE.


    3 weeks later? WanRen denies he said it-

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...tough-questions-regarding-christianity-7.html
     
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    Yes. WR aimed Barabas was a rapist.... by her logic if Barabas was a zealot and a rebel against the Roman occupation... he was automatically also a rapist.
     
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    If God is omniscient, free will cannot exist. You are incapable of making choices. All your actions are predetermined.
     
  9. WanRen

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    The continuing insisting that Barabbas was not rapist is part of falsifying Biblical history.

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    You are already making free choices and your choice is to be against God your destiny is predetermined by yourself not by God.
     
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    You are falsifying the Bible... It never says that Barabas was a rapist.
     
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    From using babies to cursed God, to cannibalism is not wicked and now Barabbas is not a rapist :( Thank God we Christians know better.

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    How do you know?
     
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    Quote the scripture from the Bible that says Barabbas was a rapist.. I'll wait.
     
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    Matthew refers to Barabbas only as a "notorious prisoner". Mark and Luke further refer to Barabbas as one involved in a stasis, a riot. Robert Eisenman states that John 18:40 refers to Barabbas as a lēstēs ("bandit"), "the word Josephus always employs when talking about Revolutionaries".

    Barabbas means "son of the father".
     
  14. Mitt Ryan

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    Of course this is just your biased opinion coming from an atheist point of view.

    Agree, this is fact.

    Not true, you have no proof it had been already destroyed for a millenia. I believe what is written in the Scriptures as a true historical event.

    Not true. Luke didn't make an error in the timing of Jesus birth. The Bible is the inerrant Word of God. The Bible is true and spoken from God’s mouth (God-breathed), and we accept it as truth more than the historical writings of the Romans or even the writings of the Jewish historian Josephus. Nor did Luke make an error in his account regarding Paul's actions after his conversion. Where do you come up with these falsehoods?

    This is your ficticious claim. Paul had nothing to correct being that Luke didn't make any error in regards to Paul's actions after his conversion.
     
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    Nice to know that you finally believe and accept the Bible. So now do you believe that God acted to punished the wicked and evil?
    Genesis 6:5 5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.
     
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    Post the scripture that states Barabbas was a rapist.... MOST Christians can READ.
     
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    We need to start from the very beginning and not skip if you in order to truly understand and accept the Bible.
    So I ask you again ; Do you believe and accept that God acted to punished the wicked and evil as stated in Genesis 6?
    5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.
     
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    Genesis doesn't mention Barabbas.. Now post the scripture that states Barabbas was a rapist.
     
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    I can now assume you are faking to believe in the Bible from babies, cannibalism to Barabbas why must you use them to go against God?
    Barabbas was a criminal, a rebel, a murderer and a rapist don't know why you would defend him over Jesus Christ.
     
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    But can they THINK.....for themselves? Once I started to think for myself, I left Jesus. I thought that Jesus was evil for denying, say, moral Hindus like Gandhi, access to the magic good place in the sky, and him being ok with sending them to the magic bad place down below.
     
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    No...don't take trevorw's atheistic opinion on the Bible seriously, He is promoting falsehoods. The Bible is truth and nothing but truth.

    With that said if you don't take the Bible seriously you will not only be on tricky turf but in a hellish environment as well in the after-life. So repent your sins now, come to the Lord and repent and ask for forgiveness of your sins.

    We read in Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said, "You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it."---Matthew 7:13-14 NLT
     
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    1.I am agnostic.

    2. The Egyptians told us in relics found by archaeology.

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    The Bible. Read Luke's account in Acts, then Paul's correction in Galatians.
    If Lukes account of Jesus birth is right Matthew is wrong. Pity you don't study.
     
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    Defending him over Jesus? You must be mad as a hatter. Where does the Bible claim that Barabbas was a rapist or that before Noah every ate infants? You have some sort of problem.
     
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    What's funny is.....he couldn't keep his story straight.

    First he claimed Barabbas was a rapist....with NO evidence of that in the Bible.

    Then (as noted) 3 weeks later...he DENIED that he had said Barabbas was a rapist.

    Then....and likely to today....he flip-flopped on his flip-flop and claims "Yes, Barabbas was a rapist"....contradicting his previous denial that he claimed that.


    Even more ironic, in that initial post (and his posts since then)....he claims the Bible as "fact"....

    yet he comes up with a falsehood (something not in the Bible), while claiming that he adhers to only facts ("like the Bible").
     
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    THIS guy says it's a LIE to claim that the Bible says Barabbas was a rapist...

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...tough-questions-regarding-christianity-7.html

    Go after HIM for lying.

    Then HE can debate THIS guy....


    (At some point, a psychiatric theory begins to develop)
     
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