Pentagon Offers Plan to Arm Ukraine

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    Cool.

    That is a good FIRST step.

    Now all that they have to do is to facilitate Ukraine's reclamation of Crimea, and they might really be on the right track.
     
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    How is Trumpov supposed to pay back Putin for getting him elected (and not releasing the other Blackmail) if Congress maintains/increases sanctions, and the Pentagon/Generals remain patriots?
    Trumpov is cornered, though he still hasn't signed the sanctions bill passed (98-2, 419-3) in congress.
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    So the countries that border Russia seem to be more and more often asking for help and saying they are truly afraid of Russia invading them.

    Our Western news doesn't really cover it at all in depth and the stuff we see out of Russian Media is pretty obviously the message of "The West is evil and wants to invade Russia stuff...."

    I am curious if the majority of people think the same way I do that Russia wants a war with the west as little as the West wants with Russia. Especially those of you in Eastern Europe, how do you feel about all this?
     
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    You guys still don't understand anything about Ukraine. Ukraine itself has huge amount of various weapons, including anti-tank missiles, which were left after collapse of USSR. Even if they didn't have any, they could easily buy it, because there is no any arms embargo on Ukraine, and there are offers of antitank missiles in the world market right now. Moreover, tanks are not the key players in this war. Ukrainian regime wants the US Javelines becuse it's American. It would let them to cry louder "America with us!", but no any military meaning in this offer.

    On the other hand, if the USA have started to provide arms supplies for Ukraine, it would make Russia free in respect of any agreements on Ukraine, and first of all in respect of Minsk accords. You want to destroy Minsk accords? Ok, but next accords will be worse for Ukraine than these ones.
     
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    Tanks are not a key player in at this moment but if the Russia regime decides to expand the war they will be. You mumble about the Minsk "accords" but the Russian regime never did live up to the Minsk accords so what is the big deal you trying to so falsely claim that arms for Ukraine would sabotage the so-called accords that the Russian regime already sabotaged. As far as Ukraine buying weapons on the world market you do know that Ukraine is very short of funds to buy much if anything.

    There is one and only one way that this Russian war against a democratic nation can be ended and that is for the Russian aggressors to leave The Krym -Crimea and leave Eastern Ukraine. Go assure peace in the future Russia needs to take it's population of ethnic Russians hone with them. Remember peoplecRussia invaded Ukraine, butvUkraine did not invade the Kuban or. Rostiv on the Don.
     
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    It's the same strategy to arm the mujahideen with Stingers in Afghanistan as part of the CIA's rebel support effort. It was the first time American-made weapons were supplied to kill Soviet troops. The Stinger decision had its impact on the Soviet withdrawal.

     
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    Oh, right - let's expell ~8.000.000 people from their homes.
    https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Національний_склад_населення_України#.D0.9F.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.BF.D0.B8.D1.81_.D0.BD.D0.B0.D1.81.D0.B5.D0.BB.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.BD.D1.8F_2001_.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.BA.D1.83

    A mere 17% of country's population.

    Then again - your incompetent post-coup government already started a war with them.


    Never the less! Question: would you be satisfied with every single russian leaving Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimean peninsula, and the soil passed under control of government of Ukraine?

    Just wondering WHAT is your interest truly are - sovereignity, or the land.
     
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