Pentagon reverses itself, calls deadly Kabul strike an error

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  1. dairyair

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    Always tough to admit when a mistake was made. War is hell.
     
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    Did milley gather the Intel or was he controlling the drone?
     
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    Exactly. This should be a teachable moment to show to the American electorate the damage that these drone strikes are doing, so they can in the future vote against drone strike policy. There is, however, no chance that this will happen, since the deaths of civilians are rather used by partisans for childish partisan mudslinging.

    The essence is: With thousands of drone strikes every year, there WILL be collateral damage, no matter who is in the WH.
     
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    This one is pretty egregious. 10 killed, 7 children. All for a political op as a response to a really screwed up withdrawal with no plan. You can say they died for politics, not simply as collateral damage during a war.
     
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    He was the one spinning it as a terrorist strike. Its in the video you didn't watch before commenting.
     
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    I’m not seeing any clear evidence of incompetence. Are you saying all dead civilians are the same regardless of context?

    context is extremely important, as judgements on morality, right decisions, wrong decisions are based in large part on context.

    For example, the context that Biden’s actions and decisions led up to the bad decision to bomb in this case can be accurately judged as imbecilic.

    nothing you’ve shown shows that Trump is likewise so imbecilic and thus worthy of your equating.

    if you have something that shows otherwise by all means.
     
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    I agree, but what they offered was only lip service, nobody was held accountable.

    The Big Picture is that US drones have been killing innocents by the dozen since they started, especially under Gunslinger Barack's administration.
     
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    Yep, and then "Peace monger" Trump made Obama look like peace loving hippies with the number of strikes during his term.
     
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    That may be true, but I don't give a GGD. I'm no Trump fan.
     
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    yet you only brought up Obama...weird.
     
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    Weird only in your tortured mind.
     
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    So far, they have done better than the former guy would have done, and they don’t lie about their mistakes.
     
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    I'm not reading any mitigation. In fact, I see the Dems admitting that Biden's administration made a mistake. And they've taken full responsibility. Innocent lives were taken. Period.

    Now, has this ever happened before? Has collateral damage never occurred before? Has the military never made a mistake before? These thoughts are being shared simply because this issue seems to be a great lunch for Reps. So what do you think should be done?
     
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    You mean to tell me that this administration, that being literally the WORST administration in American history, ****ed something up so bad they actually had to admit it?

    Duh. Who woulda known? Reckless racist joe earned this title for a reason, as he has done nothing but bring suffering to Americans and the world since starting office. In less than a year he has caused inflation, armed our enemies, gas prices going through the roof, murdered Americans, abandoned Americans behind enemy lines, emboldened our enemies. And that just scratches the surface.

    Now this?

    I mean, this is what the emotional thinkers of America wanted...they wanted reckless racist joe. Its a shame more of America aren't logical thinkers, but it is what it is. The emotional elected him and this is on them.
     
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    Trump did a far better job than reckless racist joe by far....and yes they do lie about their mistakes lol. Reckless racist joe has done nothing but lie around the largest **** up in American history...and yet journalists seem to have temporarily found a backbone and called him and his lying admin out on it.
     
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    Under Trump it was worse for Afghan civilians.

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-slam...trikewhich-jumped-330-under-his-watch-1630476
    However, civilian deaths from U.S.-led airstrikes in Afghanistan increased by 330 percent during the Trump administration.
     
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    It only took the Democrats and their woke Military to share with the dumbfucks that didn't already know, what really happened. The reset of us knew over a week ago that the Biden Administration murdered our allies and their 7 children.

    Nothing to see here.
     
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    There's no blame for the elite in charge. Only the peons will be held accountable. Besides, Milley was far too busy colluding with the Chinese to worry about our people or allies in Afghanistan.
     
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    The people in charge rely on the Intel they’re given.
     
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    Ok they took full responsibilty what now or is that all talk and no action? What does we take full responsibility even mean? Had it actually killed terrorist instead of an ally and his and others children I bet they would be taking responsibilty and patting themselves on the back as they did until two days later when they realized what happened and then refused to admit it for days and then on a Friday end of the news cycle.

    What has happened before is of no matter this is about what happened HERE AND NOW don't you've going to run down your rabbit hole with me following, deal with THIS.

    Before it happened Biden claimed we could attack the terrorist from "over the horizon", this was then opening move and we see the disaster because they did not have clear intelligence and someone order the missile to be launch without having a clear target.

    Yea I know you want to just brush it all off but this needs a FULL investigation, does this represent the limitations and consequences of Biden's and Blinken's plan.
     
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    And what were they given on which THEY made the decision to fire the missile. From what I've heard that attack should NEVER have been launched. It was all signals intelligence from someone in Kansas or some other base far away watching a TV screen. Someone was given this evidence and that someone said go on it. Who was that. Was Biden told, was Biden in the loop? Any of his WH advisors?
     
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    OH well that makes this all go away.

    Was this guys house a battlefield with an active battle going?
     
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    I have an interesting question (at least for me anyway) ... the movements of the driver of the vehicle hit had been tracked for several hours that day ... why? ...
     
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    I think it wasn't announced immediately because they had to do an investigation. But I also agree that when such a mistake is made, a full investigation should be done. There should always be a full investigation into these kinds of mistakes.

    As for taking full responsibility, they say they are going to financially compensate the families.

    I have no interest in brushing it all off, but I also don't think we need to drag it around forever. Sadly, this happens in war. It has happened before and will again. And it will certainly change the view of 'over the horizon' attacks in the future. Without soldiers on the ground providing intelligence, we are almost blind.
     

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